Author Topic: Jeremy Corbyn and his policies.  (Read 8997 times)

How many do you actually agree or disagree with.

Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts.
5 (3.9%)
£10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18.
7 (5.4%)
All rented accommodation to be fit for human habitation.
8 (6.2%)
Renationalise the railways.
4 (3.1%)
Renationalise the NHS.
6 (4.7%)
Free school meals.
5 (3.9%)
Create a National Education Service.
7 (5.4%)
Scrap tuition fees.
5 (3.9%)
Restore NHS Bursaries.
6 (4.7%)
Increase the carers allowance.
8 (6.2%)
Create a National Investment Bank.
5 (3.9%)
End the public sector pay freeze.
7 (5.4%)
End sweetheart tax deals between HMRC and massive corporations.
6 (4.7%)
Stop major corporations ripping off their suppliers.
7 (5.4%)
Reverse the Tory corporation tax cuts.
6 (4.7%)
Defend Human Rights.
8 (6.2%)
Zero Hours Contracts ban.
8 (6.2%)
Holding the Tories to account over Brexit.
7 (5.4%)
Housebuilding.
7 (5.4%)
Combat inequality.
7 (5.4%)

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Voting closed: May 31, 2017, 12:21:29 PM

Author Topic: Jeremy Corbyn and his policies.  (Read 8997 times)

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn and his policies.
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2017, 01:19:20 PM »
Oh and he won't read this one either - it has JC's name in it:
One way that JC could get elected would be if the Tories only get enough seats for a minority forcing the others to form a coalition when the Tories confidence ends.

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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2017, 06:20:25 PM »
I think you will find that JK was belittling my post with his well-informed opinion mate - I can't see JK actually reading any of the information given on the link let alone endorse it.

Credit due where credits due...

Wrong on both counts, most of those things I would agree with and I read the link.

How is it going to be paid for, Corbyn and his Shadow Cabinet have failed to answer those questions every time I have watched them and I've watched them a lot.

This what makes Corbyn unelectable and that is without mentioning Livingston farce, that Labour is a divided party and the delusions that its all a conspiracy.

I read your second link its almost a moot point, are Labour planning to go after the rich and introduce 90% income tax bands, it doesn't work.

He is a nice man but a terrible potential prime minister.
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2017, 08:29:14 AM »
I see Corbyn has promised 4 more bank holidays if Labour gets in, one for each British saints day. They don't say how that will be paid for! ::)

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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2017, 09:12:21 AM »
The first three fall within weeks of both each other and the Easter and May Day Bank Holidays. I like the idea of extra bank holidays but having them spread out would be useful.

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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2017, 09:37:03 AM »
I see Corbyn has promised 4 more bank holidays if Labour gets in, one for each British saints day. They don't say how that will be paid for! ::)
Well he won't get the Cornish vote unless he includes a St Piran's Day.

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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2017, 09:38:05 AM »
I see Corbyn has promised 4 more bank holidays if Labour gets in, one for each British saints day. They don't say how that will be paid for! ::)
- 30 November is already a bank holiday in Scotland. I believe similarly that St Patrick'ds day is similarly treated in NI. These are devolved matters.
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2017, 10:11:43 AM »
Well he won't get the Cornish vote unless he includes a St Piran's Day.

St Piran?

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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2017, 10:20:20 AM »
Just taking the first one, surely if we dislike tax havens so much we shouldn't be in linked to quite so many offshore tax havens?

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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2017, 10:25:02 AM »
Dear Prof,


Taken from the article this thread is linked to, but I see the Tories destroying the NHS first hand, in the past two months we have had four Senior Sisters retiring with no replacements, the other Sisters struggle to keep the unit running with less and less staff, it is becoming the norm in our unit for Nurses to leave or for them to go part time.

But it does my heart proud to see those retired Sisters covering for Nurses to keep numbers up, the NHS is in crisis, we either pay for it to continue or lose it.

Fact, keep the Tories and lose the NHS, get rid of them and reclaim something which makes this little island great.

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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2017, 10:30:41 AM »
I see Corbyn has promised 4 more bank holidays if Labour gets in, one for each British saints day. They don't say how that will be paid for! ::)
It's easy. It will be paid for with slightly reduced productivity per person per year.
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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2017, 10:39:54 AM »
It's easy. It will be paid for with slightly reduced productivity per person per year.
I think we have to be careful about making a direct correlation here. Despite, or possibly because of, having fewer public holidays than most countries, and working longer hours we have an issue with low productivity. The policy itself is a ludicrous sop, particularly for the timing reasons already mentioned, nevermind its harking back to a time when Saints days meant anything. I would've more interested in them putting together a plan looking at increasing productivity through development of clear equitable workers rights treated as a whole rather than piecemeal.

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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2017, 01:03:09 PM »
I think we have to be careful about making a direct correlation here. Despite, or possibly because of, having fewer public holidays than most countries, and working longer hours we have an issue with low productivity. The policy itself is a ludicrous sop, particularly for the timing reasons already mentioned, nevermind its harking back to a time when Saints days meant anything. I would've more interested in them putting together a plan looking at increasing productivity through development of clear equitable workers rights treated as a whole rather than piecemeal.
Interesting view. Are you saying that taken as a whole they vote conservative and then demonstrate passive aggression in the workplace thus reducing productivity?

Or is it that aspect which is always neglected under Tory administrations.....Shite management.

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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2017, 01:10:45 PM »
I think we have to be careful about making a direct correlation here. Despite, or possibly because of, having fewer public holidays than most countries, and working longer hours we have an issue with low productivity. The policy itself is a ludicrous sop, particularly for the timing reasons already mentioned, nevermind its harking back to a time when Saints days meant anything. I would've more interested in them putting together a plan looking at increasing productivity through development of clear equitable workers rights treated as a whole rather than piecemeal.
I dunno....If your erstwhile voters are going to take the piss out of you why not take the piss out of them.
You want a Landslide? Vote for more working hours.

Can I see that the whiff of Britain's Ecclesiastical past has turned yer average forum atheist into a Conservative here?

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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2017, 01:42:21 PM »
Corbyn is undecided about Trident, but the Labour Party wishes to keep the deterrent.

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« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2017, 01:45:27 PM »
I dunno....If your erstwhile voters are going to take the piss out of you why not take the piss out of them.
You want a Landslide? Vote for more working hours.

Can I see that the whiff of Britain's Ecclesiastical past has turned yer average forum atheist into a Conservative here?

No.

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« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2017, 05:48:56 PM »
I think we have to be careful about making a direct correlation here. Despite, or possibly because of, having fewer public holidays than most countries, and working longer hours we have an issue with low productivity. The policy itself is a ludicrous sop, particularly for the timing reasons already mentioned, nevermind its harking back to a time when Saints days meant anything. I would've more interested in them putting together a plan looking at increasing productivity through development of clear equitable workers rights treated as a whole rather than piecemeal.
I was focusing on Floo's specific question about how to pay for the new bank holidays and pointing out that it is relatively easy.

The policy itself is an obvious bribe and it hasn't been thought out, not least because three of the four proposed new holidays fall in a period that is already well served by Easter and the May holidays.

As for increasing productivity through improving workers' rights, I find that an intriguing idea. The UK's per capita productivity is shockingly bad compared with other European countries that have better rights, but correlation is not necessarily causation.
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« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2017, 05:50:09 PM »
Corbyn is undecided about Trident, but the Labour Party wishes to keep the deterrent.
Define "the Labour Party". Do you mean the PLP or the party as a whole including all its members?
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« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2017, 06:17:03 PM »
Corbyn is undecided about Trident, but the Labour Party wishes to keep the deterrent.



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Which Labourparty?
'Cos even though their Scots leader supported weapons of mass destruction, the Scottis branch voted to get rid of them.
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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2017, 06:18:12 PM »
Define "the Labour Party". Do you mean the PLP or the party as a whole including all its members?

I should have said the PLP.

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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2017, 06:41:25 PM »
Dear Jeremyp,

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Blame the SNP if you are talking about the NHS In Scotland.

Don't worry old son!! After young Sane informed me that that the NHS had been devolved, I have been having a little read about who and what, seems I have a little catching up on what the Tartan Tories are all about.

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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2017, 06:49:42 PM »
Dear Jeremyp,

Don't worry old son!! After young Sane informed me that that the NHS had been devolved, I have been having a little read about who and what, seems I have a little catching up on what the Tartan Tories are all about.

Gonnagle.


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Actually, the NHS has been separate from that in England since its' creation, long before devolution. It used to be the province of the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Scottish Office.
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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2017, 07:51:42 PM »

Which Labourparty?
'Cos even though their Scots leader supported weapons of mass destruction, the Scottis branch voted to get rid of them.

Hang don't the SNP want to remain in NATO which has nuclear weapons.
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« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2017, 08:01:30 PM »
Hang don't the SNP want to remain in NATO which has nuclear weapons.
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Yep
(I'm not a member of any party at the moment, btw)
So what?
Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Norway....need I go on?
None of them harbour weapons of mass destruction, yet are members of Nato.
Why should Scotland be any different?
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