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Nearly Sane

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French Presidential Election
« on: April 21, 2017, 03:55:54 PM »
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Jack Knave

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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 08:14:34 PM »
This is only the first round.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 08:40:37 PM »
Quote from: Jack Knave on April 21, 2017, 08:14:34 PM
This is only the first round.
which given it will result in the two in the run off is hugely significant
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2017, 08:20:04 AM »
I hope that Le Pen doesn't get in, her party is the equivalent of the National Front! >:(
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2017, 09:44:20 AM »
Quote from: Floo on April 22, 2017, 08:20:04 AM
I hope that Le Pen doesn't get in, her party is the equivalent of the National Front! >:(

That is really perceptive of you, Floo. 

And do you know what?    Its name, in French, is Front National.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2017, 10:28:34 AM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on April 22, 2017, 09:44:20 AM
That is really perceptive of you, Floo. 

And do you know what?    Its name, in French, is Front National.
What is that in English then?
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2017, 11:51:26 AM »
Quote from: ekim on April 22, 2017, 10:28:34 AM
What is that in English then?

That is really hard to work out! ;D
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2017, 01:29:50 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 21, 2017, 08:40:37 PM
which given it will result in the two in the run off is hugely significant
But as you said it looks like Macron and Le Pen, but also that it looks close. But perhaps we could wait and see who are in the second round and then start to sweat....
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 01:32:41 PM »
Quote from: ekim on April 22, 2017, 10:28:34 AM
What is that in English then?
The sweet and lovely party!!!  ;D
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 01:38:21 PM »
Hoping Le Pen wins. Good for Europe.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2017, 01:39:32 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on April 22, 2017, 01:38:21 PM
Hoping Le Pen wins. Good for Europe.

That says it all where you are concerned; it is not to your credit! >:( That mob is as bad as Hitler and the Nazis 
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2017, 01:50:03 PM »
Quote from: Jack Knave on April 22, 2017, 01:29:50 PM
But as you said it looks like Macron and Le Pen, but also that it looks close. But perhaps we could wait and see who are in the second round and then start to sweat....

Being interested in the outcome of Sunday isn't 'sweating'
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2017, 02:02:07 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 22, 2017, 01:50:03 PM
Being interested in the outcome of Sunday isn't 'sweating'
So you think all possible outcomes will be a good thing, no matter who eventually wins?
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2017, 02:12:50 PM »
Quote from: Jack Knave on April 22, 2017, 02:02:07 PM
So you think all possible outcomes will be a good thing, no matter who eventually wins?

No.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2017, 02:15:10 PM »
Quote from: ekim on April 22, 2017, 10:28:34 AM
What is that in English then?







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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2017, 02:52:57 PM »
Quote from: Floo on April 22, 2017, 01:39:32 PM
That says it all where you are concerned; it is not to your credit! >:( That mob is as bad as Hitler and the Nazis

Classic Floo. Yes, the French NF killed millions of Jews and Gypsies, Russians etc.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2017, 03:02:36 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on April 22, 2017, 02:52:57 PM
Classic Floo. Yes, the Grench NF killed millions of Jews and Gypsies, Russians etc.

Back then they probably would have cheered the Nazis on!
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2017, 04:18:28 PM »
Quote from: Floo on April 22, 2017, 03:02:36 PM
Back then they probably would have cheered the Nazis on!

Just like all the Arabs the neo-liberal elite are letting into Europe then. Apparently Mein Kampf is very popular in the Middle-East.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2017, 05:06:31 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on April 22, 2017, 02:12:50 PM
No.
So at some point you may start to sweat because the outcome could be a threat to your ideal position.....?
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2017, 05:12:37 PM »
Just heard on the Beeb that many are going to abstain which will favour Le Pen. Their reason being that there is no one worth voting for and that they are all liars. Probably the  position I will take for the coming GE.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2017, 06:06:25 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on April 22, 2017, 01:38:21 PM
Hoping Le Pen wins. Good for Europe.
Are you mad?!?

Anyhow she won't win as she will be soundly beaten in the second round, by whichever of Macron or Fillon gets through.

Her only chance would be a run off between her and Melenchon but I think that's very unlikely.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2017, 06:17:45 PM »
Quote from: ProfessorDavey on April 22, 2017, 06:06:25 PM
Are you mad?!?

Anyhow she won't win as she will be soundly beaten in the second round, by whichever of Macron or Fillon gets through.

Her only chance would be a run off between her and Melenchon but I think that's very unlikely.
But Le Pen winning would be a lot more fun to watch.  ;D
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2017, 07:15:05 PM »
Quote from: ProfessorDavey on April 22, 2017, 06:06:25 PM
Are you mad?!?

Anyhow she won't win as she will be soundly beaten in the second round, by whichever of Macron or Fillon gets through.

Her only chance would be a run off between her and Melenchon but I think that's very unlikely.

The polls were wrong about Btexit and Trump.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2017, 07:28:04 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on April 22, 2017, 07:15:05 PM
The polls were wrong about Btexit and Trump.
Not true actually.

The polls prior to brexit bounced between remain and leave leads - the reason why people were surprised was because many assumed their would be a late swing to remain.

The polls in the US presidential election (which are predictions of overall vote share) were pretty well spot on, predicting a couple of point lead for Clinton in the nation vote share. Trump won because he picked up the key states he needed - the French presidential run off will be a straight winner on national vote share.

However the key point is that in brexit and US presidential elections the polls were showing the two sides pretty close to neck and neck. In the French run off the polls are showing either Macron or Fillon beating LePen by about 65% to 35% - that's a massive gap, nothing like the neck and neck reported by the polls in the other 2 cases.
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Re: French Presidential Election
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2017, 07:56:07 PM »
That might be the case but I'm hoping.
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