Dealing with death.

[Robbie]

Sensible answer floo! Compasses would probably be iced up and useless  .

[floo]

Fortunately the idea of the long dead Jesus putting in a second appearance is more than likely a fanciful scenario.

[Sassy]

The more I read the Bible the less credible I find it. The authors portray their version of a god as a very nasty character, my god is bigger than your god. The things attributed to it apart from having no credibility, have no evidence to support them. Very few people living at the time of Jesus believed him to be the promised Messiah. The Jews are still looking out for it.

I don't subscribe to your point of view. In fact, I see absolutely nothing to support your point of view giving that there has not been another god for anyone to say " My God is bigger than your god."
The prominent theme has always been that no matter the amount of good that God did for mankind they always threw it back in his face by returning to evil ways and idolatry.

Your god, is yourself. You really have not been able to see a bigger picture or any fault with humans or their nature.
You believe you and your thoughts are the only correct thoughts. Truth is you do not recognise your own bias and the 'me' syndrome. What is it about yourself you deem perfect?

I cannot fathom why you think you have it right when clearly the bible teaches us something far more than your boxed opinion.
Did you ever think about being wrong?

[floo]

I don't subscribe to your point of view. In fact, I see absolutely nothing to support your point of view giving that there has not been another god for anyone to say " My God is bigger than your god."
The prominent theme has always been that no matter the amount of good that God did for mankind they always through it back in his face by returning to evil ways and idolatry.

Your god, is yourself. You really have not been able to see a bigger picture or any fault with humans or their nature.
You believe you and your thoughts are the only correct thoughts. Truth is you do not recognise your own bias and the 'me' syndrome. What is it about yourself you deem perfect?

I cannot fathom why you think you have it right when clearly the bible teaches us something far more than your boxed opinion.
Did you ever think about being wrong?

Much of the Bible is no more credible than the Harry Potter stories, imo. However, I realise I could be wrong in my assumptions, I hope I am not, but at least I admit it is a possibility. Do you ever consider your take on matters of faith could be misguided?

[Robbie]

It's interesting to read about the various ways people of faith deal with death (Jews,Muslims & Hindus have particular pracices which are important to them).but whatever beliefs we have or if we have none, we still have to deal with death which is what this thread is concerned with, in the General and not a religious section.

[floo]

It's interesting to read about the various ways people of faith deal with death (Jews,Muslims & Hindus have particular pracices which are important to them).but whatever beliefs we have or if we have none, we still have to deal with death which is what this thread is concerned with, in the General and not a religious section.

Very true.

[Sassy]

Much of the Bible is no more credible than the Harry Potter stories, imo. However, I realise I could be wrong in my assumptions, I hope I am not, but at least I admit it is a possibility. Do you ever consider your take on matters of faith could be misguided?

Misguided, suggests that you HAVE  a closed mind and refuse to accept someone can know there is a GOD.
It is nothing to do with guidance be it mis guidance or otherwise. You are the one who cannot accept you could be wrong because to be honest
you don't understand the meaning of FAITH and ACTION being the key to seeing.

[Harrowby Hall]

Misguided, suggests that you HAVE  a closed mind and refuse to accept someone can know there is a GOD.
It is nothing to do with guidance be it mis guidance or otherwise. You are the one who cannot accept you could be wrong because to be honest
you don't understand the meaning of FAITH and ACTION being the key to seeing.

And equally, Sassy, your reliance on your personal subjections which cannot be shared except in anecdote, and your reliance on a set of completely unverifiable stories which frequently lead you to present yourself as the only person in step also present you as having a closed mind.

You don't do yourself any favours, either, by your frequent dismissal of informed views by others who have expertise you do not possess.

[floo]

Misguided, suggests that you HAVE  a closed mind and refuse to accept someone can know there is a GOD.
It is nothing to do with guidance be it mis guidance or otherwise. You are the one who cannot accept you could be wrong because to be honest
you don't understand the meaning of FAITH and ACTION being the key to seeing.

People can BELIEVE there is a god, but it is impossible to KNOW for a fact one exists, as there is no verifiable evidence to substantiate that belief.

[Sassy]

And equally, Sassy, your reliance on your personal subjections which cannot be shared except in anecdote, and your reliance on a set of completely unverifiable stories which frequently lead you to present yourself as the only person in step also present you as having a closed mind.

You don't do yourself any favours, either, by your frequent dismissal of informed views by others who have expertise you do not possess.

My mind by the same reasoning can be shown to be more open than yours,. as I see all the things you fail to see and can do more than you alone can possibly know.
You are not willing to test what you think you know. Neither are you willing or educated enough to know how to test them, or what the difference it would make to your life if you did.

I don't dismiss out of ignorance AS YOU DO.  I can dismiss what non-believers say from true experience and knowledge.
In fact I see more than you see... I know more than you know and I can do thing you never will.
With that having been said... you know I am right but you just cannot prove it, to yourself.

[Sassy]

People can BELIEVE there is a god, but it is impossible to KNOW for a fact one exists, as there is no verifiable evidence to substantiate that belief.

JESUS CHRIST...
Proof you can know there is a God and he exists.

Same proof and experiences those who 'KNOW' God have experienced.
You do NOTHING in order to experience anything. You speak from a place you have never moved from or searched from.
You are not in a position to tell believers anything because you know nothing and have never learned anything about true Faith, the Bible or God.

[floo]

Other people's experiences are just as valid as yours, Sass, and lead them to different conclusions.

Jesus was just a human like the rest of us, with a good side and a bad side!

[Sebastian Toe]

You are not willing to test what you think you know. Neither are you willing or educated enough to know how to test them, or what the difference it would make to your life if you did.

Would you care to illuminate for the unwilling and uneducated, exactly what the test(s) involve?

[Nearly Sane]

An alternative disposal method


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/dissolving_the_dead

[Rhiannon]

No method seems to be without drawbacks. It's a bit of a bugger that being left for the birds to pick clean is no longer an option.

[Nearly Sane]

No method seems to be without drawbacks. It's a bit of a bugger that being left for the birds to pick clean is no longer an option.

It may be returning with a day off

http://newsthump.com/2017/05/22/tories-to-allow-day-off-work-to-leave-elderly-relative-on-mountain-top-for-vultures/