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Humph Warden Bennett

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Ian Brady is dead
« on: May 16, 2017, 09:59:01 AM »
Just a thought. When I consider those whom I feel have wronged me, and those whom I feel have wronged other people, compared to what Brady & his girlfriend did, most of my minor gripes seem very very small indeed.

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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2017, 10:00:24 AM »
Should have hanged years ago.
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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2017, 10:59:39 AM »
I am not in favour of the death penalty, but where the evil Brady and Hindley were concerned I might have made the exception. >:(

Then you are in favour of the death penalty.

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2017, 11:25:50 AM »
Then you are in favour of the death penalty.

No not really. I do think the likes of Brady should be made to serve out their life sentences in the toughest of environments with no creature comforts at all.

Now that evil piece of scum is dead I think his body should be chopped up into little pieces and scattered in a remote place for rodents etc to eat!

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2017, 11:43:35 AM »
Should have hanged years ago.

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Sorry, BR.
I think witholding his requests to be transferred to a mainstream prison, and his demand to be allowed to die, were more fitting punishments for this individual.
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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2017, 11:46:32 AM »
Now that evil piece of scum is dead I think his body should be chopped up into little pieces and scattered in a remote place for rodents etc to eat!

As to Brady finally being of some use to the planet, then I do have some sympathy with your post.

However, what differentiates H Sapiens from the rest of the animal kingdom is our differentiation between right, and wrong. Brady shouild be buried quickly, without fuss, and my sympathies with whoever has to speak at his funeral.



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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2017, 11:49:21 AM »
Now that evil piece of scum is dead I think his body should be chopped up into little pieces and scattered in a remote place for rodents etc to eat!

As to Brady finally being of some use to the planet, then I do have some sympathy with your post.

However, what differentiates H Sapiens from the rest of the animal kingdom is our differentiation between right, and wrong. Brady shouild be buried quickly, without fuss, and my sympathies with whoever has to speak at his funeral.

Brady shouldn't have funeral just the disposal of his corpse.

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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2017, 11:52:39 AM »
Now that evil piece of scum is dead I think his body should be chopped up into little pieces and scattered in a remote place for rodents etc to eat!

As to Brady finally being of some use to the planet, then I do have some sympathy with your post.

However, what differentiates H Sapiens from the rest of the animal kingdom is our differentiation between right, and wrong. Brady shouild be buried quickly, without fuss, and my sympathies with whoever has to speak at his funeral.

I guess it depends what they say.

If they describe him accurately it should cause them no problem.

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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2017, 11:55:26 AM »


However, what differentiates H Sapiens from the rest of the animal kingdom is our differentiation between right, and wrong. Brady shouild be buried quickly, without fuss, and my sympathies with whoever has to speak at his funeral.

But if he is buried without fuss there will be no funeral and no-one will be speaking.
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2017, 11:55:39 AM »
I guess it depends what they say.

If they describe him accurately it should cause them no problem.

His corpse shouldn't be permitted to pollute any church, or crem chapel!

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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2017, 12:00:11 PM »
His corpse shouldn't be permitted to pollute any church, or crem chapel!

Why. It is only a corpse. The corpse isn't guilty of anything. Whoever or whatever the force/personality was that committed those horrific acts is gone. The corpse is just that - a corpse.

Leave it be. Brady is gone.
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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2017, 12:05:27 PM »
His corpse shouldn't be permitted to pollute any church, or crem chapel!


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Isn't that the decision of whatever denomination - if he had one?
There may also be surviving family who will be consulted before any funeral is carried out.
Gor my own part, funerals are there for the family, not the body in the vox, and no words said over said box will change anything - but there may well be some famikly members who mourn him - and their needs, not those of Brady - should be taken into consideration.
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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 12:12:12 PM »
My thoughts are with the families of his victims. This must be a frighteningly traumatic time for them.

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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2017, 12:40:46 PM »
No not really. I do think the likes of Brady should be made to serve out their life sentences in the toughest of environments with no creature comforts at all.

Now that evil piece of scum is dead I think his body should be chopped up into little pieces and scattered in a remote place for rodents etc to eat!

He wanted to die for a long time (as Trent voyager said above). He had little quality of life, his punishment must have been worse than a quick death.

Like you i don't support the death penalty but had it been the wayof dealing with murderers at the time of his conviction, I wouldn't have lost sleep over Brady. Still I think life imprisonment can be a living death.

As for funeral, i thought funeral was just burying or cremating the body. Anything else is frills. He'll be disposed of quietly no doubt, no undertaker is going to want to advertise the fact that they're dealing with his remains - but they are just remains, not him.

My sympathies are with those relatives of his victims who are still alive.
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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2017, 01:11:33 PM »

As for funeral, i thought funeral was just burying or cremating the body. Anything else is frills.

Well, you thought wrong.

Burying, burning etc is disposal. Frills is funeral.
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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2017, 01:15:18 PM »
My thoughts are with the families of his victims. This must be a frighteningly traumatic time for them.

Well, it will certainly revive memories of the children they lost, but I would have thought that Brady's demise would bring relief rather than be "frighteningly traumatic".
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2017, 01:47:50 PM »
Why. It is only a corpse. The corpse isn't guilty of anything. Whoever or whatever the force/personality was that committed those horrific acts is gone. The corpse is just that - a corpse.

Leave it be. Brady is gone.

It what that corpse represents that is contaminated.

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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2017, 02:28:38 PM »
It what that corpse represents that is contaminated.

As I say. Leave it be. Brady's gone.

Unfortunately I'm sure the press will do it's usual salacious job of highlighting the funeral which will then cause the possible grief we all,I hope would be spared, for the families. Let his cremation, burial, funeral, whatever is chosen, happen and don't cover it in the press. Don't mention it.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2017, 02:58:33 PM »
As I say. Leave it be. Brady's gone.

Unfortunately I'm sure the press will do it's usual salacious job of highlighting the funeral which will then cause the possible grief we all,I hope would be spared, for the families. Let his cremation, burial, funeral, whatever is chosen, happen and don't cover it in the press. Don't mention it.

He doesn't deserve a funeral! Hopefully his corpse will be disposed of quietly without anyone being any the wiser!

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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2017, 03:08:53 PM »
He doesn't deserve a funeral! Hopefully his corpse will be disposed of quietly without anyone being any the wiser!


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Again, in disposing of his remains, the feelings of any surviving members of Brady's family will be taken into consideration.
I can't imagine anyone will mourn his passing, but, routinely, the prison authorities will consult the next of kin if there is one.
There have been cases when crematoria or churches have been opened late at night to accomodate such services or commemorations at the wish of the next of kin. In such cases, the funeral is usually strictly private and by invitation only.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2017, 03:19:33 PM »

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Again, in disposing of his remains, the feelings of any surviving members of Brady's family will be taken into consideration.
I can't imagine anyone will mourn his passing, but, routinely, the prison authorities will consult the next of kin if there is one.
There have been cases when crematoria or churches have been opened late at night to accomodate such services or commemorations at the wish of the next of kin. In such cases, the funeral is usually strictly private and by invitation only.

It is the relatives of his victims whose feelings that should be taken into consideration, not that of his family. Although if they have any decency they wouldn't want that piece of scum having any sort of ceremonial send off.

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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2017, 03:45:05 PM »
Ian Brady didn't appear to have any relatives:

http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/ian-brady

I'd never before read much about him, the above makes chilling reading.

He will be disposed of, probably cremated, quietly and discreetly. We'll know nothing about it until afterwards.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2017, 03:51:46 PM »
Ian Brady didn't appear to have any relatives:

http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/ian-brady

I'd never before read much about him, the above makes chilling reading.

He will be disposed of, probably cremated, quietly and discreetly. We'll know nothing about it until afterwards.

Chilling reading is an understatement!

Whilst I certainly don't buy the concept of original sin, I certainly think people can be born with the propensity to be a psychopath or sociopath like Brady.
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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2017, 05:17:18 PM »
I find his mental illness interesting, assuming he was a psychopath.   Does this mean he was responsible for what he did?  I don't know, but certainly when he wanted to go back to prison, he wasn't allowed.   I think he also got medication.

But he was considered sane enough to stand trial, but I suppose he was quite intelligent.   

It's similar to Peter Sutcliffe, I suppose.  I can also understand why people say, sod psychiatry, hang the bastards, although the law presumably would not allow that, if they are judged insane.   

Actually, I just noticed that Sutcliffe was moved back to prison, so presumably was judged sane enough.
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Re: Ian Brady is dead
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2017, 05:22:13 PM »
Should have hanged years ago.

Like you B R I'm with the majority, I totally agree with you.

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