Dogs as important as children!

[floo]

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[Robbie]

My pets were important but my children more so, an example (didn't happen to me),if i had a child who was allergic to pet fur I would find the pet another home, not find my child another home! When people don't have children or children have left, their pets are just as important as kids & often treated like their kids but most people would for example put saving the life of a human being before that of a child.

Our animals are very important though, if we take on the responsibility of caring for them we must care for them & set a good example to our children if we do so conscientiously. Wouldn't pay too much attention to what people say on forums,maybe the person has never had a situation where she had to choose between animals and children.

[Robbie]

It happens floo,unfortunately allergies pop up at any time.

Your daughter and then you were right to find a new home for the cat.

I wonder if the person on the forum will tell you what her choice would be? Whatever she may say i feel certain she'd put her child first and do the best she could for pet.

[Nearly Sane]

She hasn't bothered to answer the question, so I can only assume she wouldn't be able to make up her mind, which if that is the case, is very worrying indeed.

Maybe she has fallen down a well and her dog is frantically barking at her dumb uncomprehending children that she is trapped.

Assuming the motivation for non answers is pointless.

[Nearly Sane]

She is posting on other threads but avoiding my question. However, another poster stated my question was making it just as difficult for her to decide, as if I had asked if she  had to choose which one of her children to save! I think that is a gobsmackingly horrible thing to say.

To be honest, what happens on other forums should stay there. I appreciate that the question in the OP is an interesting one (indeed so interesting that I had posted a related OP.  http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=13887.0)
 but what posters who either post here post elsewhere, or who  do not post here post elsewhere isn't the business of the forum

[jeremyp]

OK, this is a scenario I put to another poster on the BBC message boards. If you had the choice of saving your dog or another human who you had never met before, which would it be. The other poster chose her dog to save.

[floo]

OK, this is a scenario I put to another poster on the BBC message boards. If you had the choice of saving your dog or another human who you had never met before, which would it be. The other poster chose her dog to save.

I would choose a human every time.

[Robbie]

So would I but I believe most would if push came to shove,what people say when not faced with such a scenario is often inaccurate.

[Rhiannon]

I agree. We think we know what we'd do but in reality we have no clue.

[Sebastian Toe]

I would choose a human every time.

Even if it was Ian Brady?

[Harrowby Hall]

If dogs could speak we would not understand what they said. Their senses provide them with a perception of the world which is totally different from ours - for instance vision is third in importance to them behind smell and hearing.

It may be considered a privilege to be able to share our lives with a member of another species, but a dog - or a cat - can never take the place of another human being.

[Rhiannon]

But for some people they do, HH. There are many reasons why this may be - my aunt and uncle are like this with their cats and it may be because of their childlessness, who knows. Some people have experiences that mean they can never trust humans. Some children with disorders such as autism can bond with animals but not people. And so on.

I am always very aware that my animals view the world differently from me. For a start, I'm not plotting anyone's imminent demise, unlike my cat.

[floo]

I believe the needs of the human animal must come first before that of any other species.

[Rhiannon]

I believe the needs of the human animal must come first before that of any other species.

Why?

[floo]

Why?

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Because we are human the top dogs in others words. Animals shouldn't be deliberately mistreated, if it can be helped, but they are there for human use like food, for instance.

[Nearly Sane]

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Because we are human the top dogs in others words. Animals shouldn't be deliberately mistreated, if it can be helped, but they are there for human use like food, for instance.

So if I was superior in some way to another human I can eat them

[Rhiannon]

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Because we are human the top dogs in others words. Animals shouldn't be deliberately mistreated, if it can be helped, but they are there for human use like food, for instance.

And what makes us 'top dogs'?

[floo]

And what makes us 'top dogs'?

Why do you think?

[Rhiannon]

Why do you think?

I didn't say that we are 'top dogs' so that is for you to answer, not me.

[Udayana]

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but they are there for human use like food, for instance.

Really? And what are humans for? 

[Gordon]

Really? And what are humans for?

This, perhaps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone)

[Rhiannon]

Dogs have emotional development that is similar to that of a two year old child. Just saying.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201303/which-emotions-do-dogs-actually-experience

[Rhiannon]

Would you do it to your dog?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201307/are-pigs-smart-dogs-and-does-it-really-matter

[floo]

No doubt I would eat a dog if I was hungry enough, they eat dogs in China, I believe. In my home island they ate cats just before the end of WW2 as food supplies weren't getting through.

[Rhiannon]

And no doubt a dog would eat you if it were hungry enough and the opportunity arose.

So in what way are we 'top dogs'? And who or what makes it definitive that animals exist in order to be used as  food source for humans?