Gay marriage is not a Christian topic but Satans deception is...

[Robbie]

SOME observant Jews - not all!

And they do not make such a public whoo-ha about it. The keep their negativity within their own community and leave others alone - something that Ad_O and Sassy and others refuse to do!

You're right about that Owlswing, they do keep things within their community.

[Shaker]

Then you have never read the gospel, for Christ tells us for which purpose God made man and wonan.

And so the assertion treadmill wheezes into action once more ...

[Owlswing]

Then you have never read the gospel, for Christ tells us for which purpose God made man and wonan.

The Bible was not written until some years after Christ's crucifiction so Christ tells us absolutely nothing, zilch, zip, nada.

[torridon]

They don't marry. Instead the carry their cross. Christ tells us God's intentions regarding marriage.

Chapter and verse please.

My memory regarding scripture might be getting hazy, but I only recall teachings around the institution of marriage, such as adultery and divorce; I don't recollect any teaching specific to gay marriage and indeed if there were any such that would be remarkable as gay marriage was not on the public moral radar in those times.  That marriage was a union between a single man and a single woman would have been the cultural assumption of the times.  Jesus didn't speak to climate change or sustainability or animal rights either. I think we need to remember context if we are to draw grand conclusions out of ancient writings.

[Rhiannon]

So many people who say that ad_o never have to carry that particular cross, they have always been free to have relationships, marry & have families.
It's easy to sit in judgement on those who are not like us. Perhaps try to put yourself in their shoes,imagine never having the choice of a loving permanent relationship.  It's so harsh.

Owl and Rhiannon, observant Jews have similar views about  homosexual relationships unfortunately. Stuck in a time warp just the same as conservative traditional Christians.

My point was more that Jesus wouldn't presume to comment on Christian matters as they wouldn't be his business, given that he was Jewish.

And I know you mean well but homosexuals aren't different from 'us'. That really is the point. There is no difference at all. It's just 'us'. All of us. Humanity.

[Owlswing]

My point was more that Jesus wouldn't presume to comment on Christian matters as they wouldn't be his business, given that he was Jewish.

And I know you mean well but homosexuals aren't different from 'us'. That really is the point. There is no difference at all. It's just 'us'. All of us. Humanity.

Agreed

[Walter]

My point was more that Jesus wouldn't presume to comment on Christian matters as they wouldn't be his business, given that he was Jewish.

And I know you mean well but homosexuals aren't different from 'us'. That really is the point. There is no difference at all. It's just 'us'. All of us. Humanity.

How do you know what Jesus would or wouldn't comment on ?
He is a fictitious character anyway, perhaps you also know what Ken Barlow will comment on next. Or maybe you write his lines?

Humanity , yes. Some I like , some I despise!   

[Robbie]

My point was more that Jesus wouldn't presume to comment on Christian matters as they wouldn't be his business, given that he was Jewish.

And I know you mean well but homosexuals aren't different from 'us'. That really is the point. There is no difference at all. It's just 'us'. All of us. Humanity.

I agree too.

[Owlswing]

How do you know what Jesus would or wouldn't comment on ?
He is a fictitious character anyway, perhaps you also know what Ken Barlow will comment on next. Or maybe you write his lines?

Humanity , yes. Some I like , some I despise!

Don't be so daft!

Jesus could not possibly have commented on Christian matters as there were none, Chistian matters that is, until AFTER his death - there were no Christians until after that.

[Sassy]

What if Gay Christians want to Marry?

What would Jesus say?

In the time of Christ  homosexuality was such a taboo subject it was not spoken about.
Do you think you can be a Christian and live an active homosexual life?
Marriage in Christianity is only ever between a male and female.

[Sassy]

'Don't ask me, I'm Jewish'?

So by that reasoning Christ could not be a Jew. 

[Sassy]

BRILLIANT! Even more brilliant coming from a non-Jew!

Please accept this praise from someone born a Jew!

Someone who is a Jew would have known that Christ could not be Jewish to make such a comment.
And we could say no one would have been able to tell about you. Being a Jew is more than circumcision and sounds like you have none of the three
qualifications.

[Sassy]

So many people who say that ad_o never have to carry that particular cross, they have always been free to have relationships, marry & have families.
It's easy to sit in judgement on those who are not like us. Perhaps try to put yourself in their shoes,imagine never having the choice of a loving permanent relationship.  It's so harsh.

Owl and Rhiannon, observant Jews have similar views about  homosexual relationships unfortunately. Stuck in a time warp just the same as conservative traditional Christians.

I believe the thread is " Gay marriage is not a Christian topic but Satans deception is..."

Given that in the Jewish and Christian faith marriage does not exist for any union outside that of a male to a female then there really is very little to do with each other.

[Sassy]

The Bible was not written until some years after Christ's crucifiction so Christ tells us absolutely nothing, zilch, zip, nada.

You know nothing of the OT or the NT hence you come out with absolute rubbish.

[Sassy]

My point was more that Jesus wouldn't presume to comment on Christian matters as they wouldn't be his business, given that he was Jewish.

And I know you mean well but homosexuals aren't different from 'us'. That really is the point. There is no difference at all. It's just 'us'. All of us. Humanity.

The Christian faith is Jewish the belief in the Messiah. DOH!

Hence Christ did comment and did say men and women would not marry in the next life.However there is no such thing as gay marriage in Christianity or Judaism.

[Owlswing]

Sassy

I really should have known better than to repond to you or any post by you.

You couldn't discuss anything even if your life depended upon it.

[Bubbles]

Someone who is a Jew would have known that Christ could not be Jewish to make such a comment.
And we could say no one would have been able to tell about you. Being a Jew is more than circumcision and sounds like you have none of the three
qualifications.

No Sassy,

You have that wrong. ( about Judaism)

You obviously don't know very much about Judaism only what Christianity thinks it knows about Judaism.

There is a difference.

[Bubbles]

The Christian faith is Jewish the belief in the Messiah. DOH!

Hence Christ did comment and did say men and women would not marry in the next life.However there is no such thing as gay marriage in Christianity or Judaism.

Nope! The messiah was a human being in Judaism that brings about world peace who will supposedly come in the future. The messiah was not God.

Jesus didn't fill that prophecy, Christians have been proving it wasn't Jesus by fighting in his name, for the last 2000 years!

Actually your NT says there is no male and female in heaven, so why would it matter who' s soul attaches to who? Ultimately?

Galatians 3.28
"New International Version
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

So gay people would be included in that then, same as anyone else.

[trippymonkey]

Rose
FANTASTIC !!!! I love you, LOL !!!

Religion is for the earth NOT for Heaven !!! 

Nick

[Aruntraveller]

Do you think you can be a Christian and live an active homosexual life?

Why not?

There is plenty of evidence that you can be a moronic simpleton and live a Christian life. Why one's sexuality (active or otherwise) should be a barrier to living a Christian life is beyond me.

[trippymonkey]

It would be much easier to villify gays, male OR female, if ALL sexual diseases were maintained &/or spread BY them, no?

Of course, they're not so....

Nick

[Shaker]

Why not?

There is plenty of evidence that you can be a moronic simpleton and live a Christian life.

Early for Post of the Day 

[Shaker]

there is no such thing as gay marriage in Christianity or Judaism.

Wrong: http://tinyurl.com/y8la3w6f

[Owlswing]

No Sassy,

You have that wrong. ( about Judaism)

You obviously don't know very much about Judaism only what Christianity thinks it knows about Judaism.

There is a difference.

There is a bloody HUGE difference!

[trippymonkey]

Jesus lived & died a Jew. Nuff Sed !!!!!

Don't recall anything in the effed up version of events we have, where he mentions starting another religion. Am I wrong?