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« Reply #100 on: June 06, 2017, 11:07:43 AM »
This is the thing. We are hated passionately. The only way to fight it is to love with just as much passion.


IMO this is not love but a helplessness and a resignation.  I know what Buddha and Gandhi stood for. It was never for weak acceptance of wickedness.

Why did no one show this 'love' for Hitler and the nazis btw?! Why the WWII at all?   

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« Reply #101 on: June 06, 2017, 11:09:19 AM »
Who do you suggest we go to war with?

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« Reply #102 on: June 06, 2017, 11:10:17 AM »

IMO this is not love but a helplessness and a resignation.
Then you clearly understand very little.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #103 on: June 06, 2017, 11:19:23 AM »

IMO this is not love but a helplessness and a resignation.  I know what Buddha and Gandhi stood for. It was never for weak acceptance of wickedness.

Why did no one show this 'love' for Hitler and the nazis btw?! Why the WWII at all?

YE GODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

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« Reply #104 on: June 06, 2017, 11:19:45 AM »
Then you clearly understand very little.



Say what you will...I can sense the helplessness and weakness. You people here are talking like wimps.

America seems to have a better control over the situation and much more serious about tackling the issue. 

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« Reply #105 on: June 06, 2017, 11:25:53 AM »


Say what you will...I can sense the helplessness and weakness. You people here are talking like wimps.

America seems to have a better control over the situation and much more serious about tackling the issue.

Bizarrely you seem to think that when people don't act with fear, then they are 'talking like wimps'. I can understand that your fear makes you want to lash out but clear thinking on this needs you to move beyond your basic instincts and consider how to achieve things without your irrational fear.

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« Reply #106 on: June 06, 2017, 11:30:28 AM »
Say what you will...I can sense the helplessness and weakness.
From half way around the world? You psychic or something?
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You people here are talking like wimps.
What, in your utterly worthless opinion, constitutes 'non-wimpish' talk?

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America seems to have a better control over the situation and much more serious about tackling the issue.
Ah yes - because an orange moron who thinks he can bar all Muslims from entering the country and building a wall and making a neighbouring nation pay for it is sophisticated political vision.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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Re: London Bridge Atrocity
« Reply #107 on: June 06, 2017, 11:31:14 AM »


Hmmmm.....OK. 

If that is the way destiny is working, how can I say anything!  Have fun!

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« Reply #108 on: June 06, 2017, 11:33:11 AM »

Hmmmm.....OK. 

If that is the way destiny is working, how can I say anything!  Have fun!

Destiny? What are you on about?

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« Reply #109 on: June 06, 2017, 11:34:23 AM »

Hmmmm.....OK. 

If that is the way destiny is working, how can I say anything!  Have fun!
Yep, your destiny is that if you make bad arguments or assertions that you cannot back up, then you will, as you have here, be reduced to writing a valueless post such as the one above.

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« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2017, 11:39:50 AM »
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America seems to have a better control over the situation and much more serious about tackling the issue. 

In what way? They have had as many if not more episodes of terrorism, and certainly more deaths as a consequence.

I know the orange windbag is to be heard making strange noises that are sometimes confused with English but can you point to any specific thing that they are doing that ensures their safety and shows that they are "tackling the situation" because as far as I can see they have exactly the same issue with homegrown terrorism that we have and react in a more hysterical fashion than we do.

My two favourite things from the dreadful weekend was one guy running down the road still clutching his pint of beer - they might be trying to kill us but I've paid for this and I'm having it - and the other was a guy who said he was going to go out and flirt with more handsome men and drink G & T's and talk with women.  No Sririam you are reading this all wrong. Given that we have to make some kind of response this is about the best we can - and for some reason that I find difficult to articulate, I feel very proud of the reaction I've seen.

The politicians are a different matter, but the people have been magnificent.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2017, 11:43:22 AM »
It seems America's answer to everything is to shoot first and ask questions afterwards, which causes even more acts of violence.

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« Reply #112 on: June 06, 2017, 11:45:22 AM »
In what way? They have had as many if not more episodes of terrorism, and certainly more deaths as a consequence.

I know the orange windbag is to be heard making strange noises that are sometimes confused with English but can you point to any specific thing that they are doing that ensures their safety and shows that they are "tackling the situation" because as far as I can see they have exactly the same issue with homegrown terrorism that we have and react in a more hysterical fashion than we do.

My two favourite things from the dreadful weekend was one guy running down the road still clutching his pint of beer - they might be trying to kill us but I've paid for this and I'm having it - and the other was a guy who said he was going to go out and flirt with more handsome men and drink G & T's and talk with women.  No Sririam you are reading this all wrong. Given that we have to make some kind of response this is about the best we can - and for some reason that I find difficult to articulate, I feel very proud of the reaction I've seen.

The politicians are a different matter, but the people have been magnificent.

For which see post 74



http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=13993.50



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« Reply #114 on: June 06, 2017, 11:52:46 AM »
... and I'm 50% safe.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #115 on: June 06, 2017, 12:11:30 PM »
So they can see who it is.   And?

I was asking you Wiggs.

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« Reply #117 on: June 06, 2017, 02:28:21 PM »
and, of course



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/04/donald-trump-considering-london-visit-show-solidarity-terror/

If Trump decided to 'favour' the UK with his presence, the terror alert would go up to critical +++++!

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« Reply #118 on: June 06, 2017, 03:17:28 PM »
Shamefully I watched last nights Big Brother, a quote, 'I could win Big Brother, that orange man won President'.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.
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« Reply #119 on: June 06, 2017, 11:15:34 PM »
If Trump decided to 'favour' the UK with his presence, the terror alert would go up to critical +++++!

Surely someone should warn him that the Mayor is being forced to cut police resources and it would be best to wait a couple of years?
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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Re: London Bridge Atrocity
« Reply #120 on: June 07, 2017, 07:27:29 AM »
This is the thing. We are hated passionately. The only way to fight it is to love with just as much passion.


Wow! That is so melodramatic. Like something out of a B&W movie.  'The more he beats me up the more I will love him'......CUT!

Keep your daffodils ready just in case someone pulls out a gun somewhere!
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« Reply #121 on: June 07, 2017, 07:40:17 AM »

Wow! That is so melodramatic. Like something out of a B&W movie.  'The more he beats me up the more I will love him'......CUT!

Keep your daffodils ready just in case someone pulls out a gun somewhere!
I see your basic instinct of fear is leading you to misrepresent people. It's as already noted understandable that you feel the  need to lash out.

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« Reply #122 on: June 07, 2017, 07:47:45 AM »
His friends got him a present in hospital - a manual called 'Learn to Run'.


Perhaps though this story may help you, Sriram, to understand that it is perfectly possible to fight back, to be angry but to not let the anger be the only thing, and in particularly to avoid acting out of it in terms of how we deal with terrorism.




http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-bridge-terror-attack-fk-fuck-you-im-millwall-hero-roy-larner-football-fan-lion-of-london-a7775246.html

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« Reply #123 on: June 07, 2017, 09:42:41 AM »

Wow! That is so melodramatic. Like something out of a B&W movie.  'The more he beats me up the more I will love him'......CUT!

Keep your daffodils ready just in case someone pulls out a gun somewhere!

Was that actually what I said?

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« Reply #124 on: June 07, 2017, 06:47:20 PM »
I have just come across this.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/loose-women-star-saira-khans-13150730

It seems like a good plan to me.