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Sebastian Toe

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Re: London Bridge Atrocity
« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2017, 08:29:17 PM »
It should not be happening.... If they were not here in the first place it could not happen. Ban them from travelling anywhere in the world.
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« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2017, 09:10:16 PM »
It should not be happening.... If they were not here in the first place it could not happen. Ban them from travelling anywhere in the world.

If by "they", you mean Muslims I don't agree, most Muslims in this country are compassionate people who follow a compassionate Islam.

Isis, who is encouraging this sort of attack view compassionate Muslims as apostates, and the punishment for apostasy in their eyes is punishable by death.

It's called Takfari.

So supporters of Isis don't care about what happens to Muslims in the UK.

Isis believes the end of the world is just round the corner and now is the time to show they are on Gods side by committing what to us and the vast majority of Muslims,  is an atrocity.

They are complete fanatics who believe they are they only sort of "real " Muslims.

Any other sort of caring Muslim is only worthy of death.

They delight in metering out punishments like beheading, burning to death, torture, killing other Muslims who they don't recognise.

They believe it is justifiable because they are part of some prediction in the Quran, which allows them to do this.

So they do, this in their eyes, justifies them as holding a this special apocalyptic position.

They also believe in slavery and sexual slavery.

It's actually quite horrible, and not to be confused with your average compassionate follower of Islam.

To do what you suggest, Sassy, would play right into their sense of destiny.

They want Armageddon.

To fight these terrorists we need to treat ordinary Muslims decently and not blame them for an ideology which isn't theirs.

We certainly shouldn't be prejudiced.

Stereotypes are what Isis do.

Let's not do that, it's what they want us to do.
Stereotype innocent Muslims, so we appear to be the oppressors.

This fulfills their sense of destiny.

It's a horrible cult, that enjoys committing atrocities in the name of Islam.






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« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2017, 09:23:03 PM »
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I really do hope you don't think Islam is in no way responsible for any & all atrocities committed in its name???

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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2017, 09:35:27 PM »
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I really do hope you don't think Islam is in no way responsible for any & all atrocities committed in its name???

Is the rest of Christianity responsible for the actions of the Westboro church? Or some other Waco type carry on?

Of course they are not.

I hope you don't tarnish all Muslims with the actions of one fanatical group

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« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2017, 09:44:31 PM »
You've never read the Quran, have you? Or talked with Muslims ?
I have & NO, not all are like this because so many ignore or overlook the more nastier sides of Islam.

You need to read a good, approved translation of The Quran as I have & also The Hadiths or Sayings Of The Prophet. Betya's not heard of THAT eh?

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« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2017, 09:54:57 PM »
You've never read the Quran, have you? Or talked with Muslims ?
I have & NO, not all are like this because so many ignore or overlook the more nastier sides of Islam.

You need to read a good, approved translation of The Quran as I have & also The Hadiths or Sayings Of The Prophet. Betya's not heard of THAT eh?

Yes I've talked with Muslims, yes I've read the Quran.

Yes I've attended meetings with Muslims on terrorism, yes I've been to a mosque.

I just can't be doing with your islamaphobia, Trippy.


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« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2017, 10:04:07 PM »
WELL then you never understood it or did as I DID & looked into all the backgrounds of the sort of rubbish people like you spout.
This is not a recent thing for me & I'm deffo NOT Islamophobic as that is an irrational fear which I certainly DON'T have.

I've done MY homework & you need to do yours.
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« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2017, 10:57:22 PM »
WELL then you never understood it or did as I DID & looked into all the backgrounds of the sort of rubbish people like you spout.
This is not a recent thing for me & I'm deffo NOT Islamophobic as that is an irrational fear which I certainly DON'T have.

I've done MY homework & you need to do yours.
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« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2017, 11:12:58 PM »
Sassy is an avowed Christian and never misses an opportunity to tell us so.  She can quote-mine the Old Testament with consummate ease to prove even the most minuscule point. She is clearly a very caring individual, but she does seem to miss the central point of the parable of the good Samaritan.

Wouldn't know about that, just wondered who the 'them' and 'they' were, the implication being that the terrorists were from overseas who came here just to commit the atrocity but do we yet know they were? This is the latest I could find:-  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/04/london-attack-six-dead-van-rampage-stabbings-terrorists-killed/
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« Reply #61 on: June 04, 2017, 11:31:27 PM »
Did anyone see the muslem woman wearing a burka on the late BBC News and she was recomending more intergration.

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« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2017, 12:47:35 AM »
No didn't see it, good for her but it doesn't seem that long ago to me,ippy, when Muslims did seem fairly integrated in our society, no-one took much notice of their religion (or anyone else's). Now every Muslim is viewed with suspicion by some people. Must be awful for them.
I wish flipping ISIS could be quashed once anf for all, i know that's too simplistic but I'm tired & feeling pretty useless about all this.
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« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2017, 07:07:27 AM »
No didn't see it, good for her but it doesn't seem that long ago to me,ippy, when Muslims did seem fairly integrated in our society, no-one took much notice of their religion (or anyone else's). Now every Muslim is viewed with suspicion by some people. Must be awful for them.
I wish flipping ISIS could be quashed once anf for all, i know that's too simplistic but I'm tired & feeling pretty useless about all this.
Night all, sleep well.



I think ippy is probably referring to the irony of a burka clad woman in Britain  talking of integration.

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« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2017, 07:37:12 AM »
Morning sririam. I don't think so. We see lots of people in the UK wearing niqabs and saris as well as Orthodox Jews in long frock coats. Nothing unusual about it.They've been well integrated in past. I think he was just commenting on how good it was that she said what she said.
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« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2017, 08:24:48 AM »
Is the rest of Christianity responsible for the actions of the Westboro church? Or some other Waco type carry on?

Of course they are not.

I hope you don't tarnish all Muslims with the actions of one fanatical group

Exactly. It is the extremists who bring disrepute upon their religions.

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« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2017, 10:13:42 AM »
torri,

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Perhaps we ought to ban people from getting radicalised, that should sort it.

Plus of course banning travelling.

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« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2017, 10:38:41 AM »
Morning sririam. I don't think so. We see lots of people in the UK wearing niqabs and saris as well as Orthodox Jews in long frock coats. Nothing unusual about it.They've been well integrated in past. I think he was just commenting on how good it was that she said what she said.


Ok...if you say so!!   :D


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« Reply #70 on: June 05, 2017, 11:14:07 AM »
By Tuesday - is that tomorrow?
They are such nasty people, i don't understand how anyone can want to kill the innocent, including kids. Including Muslims! They don't survey the crowd to find out their religion before killing them.

It's sobering.

I also PMS at the name Simon Al-Williams.
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Re: London Bridge Atrocity
« Reply #71 on: June 05, 2017, 11:34:23 AM »
To cock a minimal snook at the terrorist malarkey, I caught a boat upriver and got off at the Globe for a wee dauner back doon the watter. Stopping off at a cafe nearby, I asked for the bacon butty. But no butty available due to the artisanal bakery that supplies cafe being shut due to the murderous thugs. Down with this sort of thing!
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« Reply #72 on: June 05, 2017, 11:57:44 AM »
Careful now.
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« Reply #73 on: June 05, 2017, 12:34:57 PM »
Shakes,

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"Simon Al-Williams, who asked to remain anonymous."

PMSL  ;D

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« Reply #74 on: June 05, 2017, 04:03:33 PM »

John Oliver's take on the reaction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Pyq99Wgqc