Scottish Episcopal Church approves gay marriage

[Nearly Sane]

Gordon at his best with his authoritarian hat.

The main interest in this issue on this forum is that it has been a text book exercise in linguistic totalitarianism.
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[Walt Zingmatilder]

... or, over all, some considerable number of centuries previously, come to that.

It's just come up recently.....mind you, this Forum is a byword for the murder of historical study.

[Harrowby Hall]

What type of a marriage between a man and a woman is gay marriage Floo?

Marriage is a civil contract between two people and its legal purpose is to protect property.

[Nearly Sane]

It's just come up recently.....mind you, this Forum is a byword for the murder of historical study.

Stop lying

[Shaker]

Gordon at his best with his authoritarian hat.

The main interest in this issue on this forum is that it has been a text book exercise in linguistic totalitarianism.

It's not authoritarian to remind people that their worldview lags several decades (at very best; it's often centuries) behind socio-political reality.

Any more than it's authoritarian to say to those on socio-political dial-up that they are somewhat behind the rest of us on fibre optic.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It's not authoritarian to remind people that their worldview lags several decades (at very best; it's often centuries) behind socio-political reality.

Any more than it's authoritarian to say to those on socio-political dial-up that they are somewhat behind the rest of us on fibre optic.

Fallacy of modernity.
Just a few decades ago secular humanists seemed to think a welfare state was a good thing. Now there are more SHers and it seems the sort of thing we can't afford.

As for Dial up versus superfast. It could just mean crap...only faster.

[Nearly Sane]

Fallacy of modernity.
Just a few decades ago secular humanists seemed to think a welfare state was a good thing. Now there are more SHers and it seems the sort of thing we can't afford.

As for Dial up versus superfast. It could just mean crap...only faster.

Stop lying

[Shaker]

Fallacy of modernity.
Just a few decades ago secular humanists seemed to think a welfare state was a good thing. Now there are more SHers and it seems the sort of thing we can't afford.

Fallacy of just about anything and everything. The idea that a welfare state is something that we can't afford is a political and ideological concept typically associated with social and fiscal conservatives (large or small C makes no difference), i.e. in this country Tories - typically people who are the antithesis of secular and humanistic. So arse backwards, unfortunately for you.

As for Dial up versus superfast. It could just mean crap...only faster.

That sounds like religion.

[ProfessorDavey]

Fallacy of modernity.
Just a few decades ago secular humanists seemed to think a welfare state was a good thing. Now there are more SHers and it seems the sort of thing we can't afford.

The nonsense of failing to understand the difference between association and causation.

Can you provide evidence please that an increase in secular humanism is the cause of an increased view that we can't afford welfare (indeed if that is actually the case).

I would have thought that concern about the affordability of welfare is due to increasingly elderly population and therefore an increased need coupled with a right wing government in power for the past 7 years driving an agenda of austerity and shrinking government (and therefore welfare spending).

[SteveH]

I already know of three pisky ministers who will not accept this and will seek oversight from a foreign diocese.

Miserable sods. Why don't they just fuck off to Rome or the Wee Frees?

[Anchorman]

Because they are neither Roman Catholic or Presbyterian. (By the way, the Free Church - of which I'm not a member - actually incresed its numbers last year - by several thousand; adding a further four 'seeded' congregations - making a total of seventeen new congregations in 18 months)