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Rhiannon

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Re: West London Fire
« Reply #75 on: June 16, 2017, 09:09:01 AM »
Can you imagine the reaction she'd have got if she did try to talk to them?

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« Reply #76 on: June 16, 2017, 09:11:44 AM »
Can you imagine the reaction she'd have got if she did try to talk to them?

Maybe, but she still should have tried, she is supposed to be the PM after all. I reckon it will be another nail in her coffin.

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« Reply #77 on: June 16, 2017, 09:17:14 AM »
No, she won't survive this. Everything that she does at the moment looks reactive.

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« Reply #78 on: June 16, 2017, 09:18:56 AM »
No, she won't survive this. Everything that she does at the moment looks reactive.

I think you are probably right.

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« Reply #79 on: June 16, 2017, 09:21:04 AM »
Can you imagine the reaction she'd have got if she did try to talk to them?

Why? Did she start the fire?

I think that Mrs May appears to be be controlled by incompetent public relations advisers. She has made herself look even more our of touch by not meeting the displaced Grenfell Tower inhabitants.

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« Reply #80 on: June 16, 2017, 09:47:11 AM »
Maybe, but she still should have tried, she is supposed to be the PM after all. I reckon it will be another nail in her coffin.
It reminds me of President Bush who 'visited' the New Orleans flooding disaster, but flying over it.

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« Reply #81 on: June 16, 2017, 09:50:15 AM »
Why? Did she start the fire?

I think that Mrs May appears to be be controlled by incompetent public relations advisers. She has made herself look even more our of touch by not meeting the displaced Grenfell Tower inhabitants.

She would be a focus for the anger of residents who already blame the Tories for mistreatment. I agree about the mismanagement. In a sense I think she's damned if she goes, damned if she doesn't. And that is an impossible position for a country's leader.

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« Reply #82 on: June 16, 2017, 09:57:07 AM »
She would be a focus for the anger of residents who already blame the Tories for mistreatment. I agree about the mismanagement. In a sense I think she's damned if she goes, damned if she doesn't. And that is an impossible position for a country's leader.
Sidiq Khan went, met local people - received a hostile reaction from some local residents but at least he put himself forward. It really does look appalling when the PM goes to the scene of an terrible tragedy and only meets firefighters and police.

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« Reply #83 on: June 16, 2017, 10:03:48 AM »
Sidiq Khan went, met local people - received a hostile reaction from some local residents but at least he put himself forward. It really does look appalling when the PM goes to the scene of an terrible tragedy and only meets firefighters and police.

Indeed.

TBH I think TM looks crushed.
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Re: West London Fire
« Reply #84 on: June 16, 2017, 12:23:23 PM »
I see The Queen has visited the victims of the fire.

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« Reply #85 on: June 16, 2017, 12:44:12 PM »
I see The Queen has visited the victims of the fire.
Yes - and apparently May is going to visit victims in hospital, but not going to see the local residents.

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« Reply #86 on: June 16, 2017, 01:11:23 PM »
Yes - and apparently May is going to visit victims in hospital, but not going to see the local residents.

I see The Queen has visited the victims of the fire.

I'd have thought they'd suffered enough already.

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« Reply #87 on: June 16, 2017, 01:23:36 PM »
I'd have thought they'd suffered enough already.
That is unfair. You can only say that if you speak to those with whom she and William spent time and can verify that is what they thought.
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« Reply #88 on: June 16, 2017, 01:51:02 PM »
I'd have thought they'd suffered enough already.

That is an unnecessary and quite horrible thing to say Gordon & frankly Ithought better of you.
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« Reply #89 on: June 16, 2017, 02:00:20 PM »
I'd have thought they'd suffered enough already.

That isn't a nice comment!

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« Reply #90 on: June 16, 2017, 02:45:22 PM »


According to CNN a criminal probe has been launched on the fire incident. It also says they don't think it was deliberate.

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« Reply #91 on: June 16, 2017, 03:01:23 PM »
It never occurred to me it was deliberate.
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« Reply #92 on: June 16, 2017, 03:04:11 PM »
It never occurred to me it was deliberate.
I thought the source has been widely reported as a fault in a fridge in a 4th floor flat. The owner of that flat has been interviewed about it.

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Re: West London Fire
« Reply #93 on: June 16, 2017, 03:06:34 PM »
I think the criminal investigation has been launched because the cladding used was no longer legal for use on a tower block.

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« Reply #94 on: June 16, 2017, 03:10:49 PM »
I think the criminal investigation has been launched because the cladding used was no longer legal for use on a tower block.
Not sure whether that is correct - I gather the type of cladding is banned in Germany and the USA, but not necessarily here where our regulations are more lax. The focus will be on whether corners/costs were cut which knowingly compromised safety.

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« Reply #95 on: June 16, 2017, 03:14:07 PM »
Not sure whether that is correct - I gather the type of cladding is banned in Germany and the USA, but not necessarily here where our regulations are more lax. The focus will be on whether corners/costs were cut which knowingly compromised safety.

Well hopefully the investigation will discover the facts, and bring criminal charges if people have been criminally negligent.

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Re: West London Fire
« Reply #96 on: June 16, 2017, 03:28:27 PM »
That is an unnecessary and quite horrible thing to say Gordon & frankly Ithought better of you.

I'd have thought post-hoc visits by both an incompetent lame duck PM and a mega-rich elderly person who has had a long life of privilege at public expense is of no value whatsoever given the immediate needs of those affected.
   

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« Reply #97 on: June 16, 2017, 03:31:45 PM »
I'd have thought post-hoc visits by both an incompetent lame duck PM and a mega-rich elderly person who has had a long life of privilege at public expense is of no value whatsoever given the immediate needs of those affected.
   

TM I agree, but I think a lot of people would have been pleased to see The Queen (LONG MAY SHE REIGN)

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Re: West London Fire
« Reply #98 on: June 16, 2017, 04:15:34 PM »
I'd have thought post-hoc visits by both an incompetent lame duck PM and a mega-rich elderly person who has had a long life of privilege at public expense is of no value whatsoever given the immediate needs of those affected.
   
Indeed  >:(
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