West London Fire

[ippy]

One of the things I though was shocking was that the council sent a threatening letter by solicitor to one person when they brought up fire regulations at Grenfell.

This was before all this happened. They really didn't want to discuss it or have it discussed.
Not that they can stop people now.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-blogger-threatened-legal-action-kensington-and-chelsea-council-health-safety-a7792346.html

Sounds like another instance of conversations that few are a party to somewhere in the background , but of course, I must be mistaken,  that sort of thing doesn't happen here in the U K, well, it's never happened before.

ippy

[Rhiannon]

One lady found comfort from the royal visit.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-william-hugs-crying-woman-10640862

[Robbie]

That's lovely.

[ippy]

One lady found comfort from the royal visit.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-william-hugs-crying-woman-10640862

How sad that there are still people taken in by this royal mythology nonsense, it makes otherwise intelligent people look a bit dippy.

ippy

[Rhiannon]

How sad that there are still people taken in by this royal mythology nonsense, it makes otherwise intelligent people look a bit dippy.

ippy

An 'otherwise intelligent' woman was beside herself at the loss of her husband and found comfort from another human being who happened to be a prince. This 'otherwise intelligent' woman just hopes that I never have the opportunity to be floored by such grief that I make such a fool of myself in the eyes of the public.

[wigginhall]

Just drove past the tower.   A terrible sight, provoking tears, anger, disgust.   It's like a tombstone against the London skyline.   It seems impossible to comprehend it.

[ippy]

An 'otherwise intelligent' woman was beside herself at the loss of her husband and found comfort from another human being who happened to be a prince. This 'otherwise intelligent' woman just hopes that I never have the opportunity to be floored by such grief that I make such a fool of myself in the eyes of the public.

I would have thought that it would be obvious and you could have seen that I wouldn't have taken this moment away from her, in those circumstances, but that it's still extremely sad the idea that anyone should become so attuned to such a nonsense idea of royalty as sad as the very idea of royalty is.

ippy

[Robbie]

Maybe this isn't the thread to be having digs at royalty.

I've complained to another poster about always grabbing the slightest opportunity to diss Muslims, he doesn't miss a trick, but there's no difference really.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

How sad that there are still people taken in by this royal mythology nonsense, it makes otherwise intelligent people look a bit dippy.

ippy

She still looks intelligent. Nothing sad about sentimentality for royalty.

What would be sad is if she missed out on a meaningful experience for her because she was worried about looking dippy to someone else.

Your dippy posts on this forum are welcome and that's how it should be - you shouldn't miss out on posting if it makes you happy.   

[ippy]

Maybe this isn't the thread to be having digs at royalty.

I've complained to another poster about always grabbing the slightest opportunity to diss Muslims, he doesn't miss a trick, but there's no difference really.

In other words you're saying you got me wrong? Is that right?

ippy

[Anchorman]

Maybe this isn't the thread to be having digs at royalty.

I've complained to another poster about always grabbing the slightest opportunity to diss Muslims, he doesn't miss a trick, but there's no difference really.

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When it comes to ridiculing the institution of monarchy (rather than the individuals) I'm first in line to start.
But - fair play to old Lizzie and Wee Wullie - they did what that dismal apology of a prime minister should have done - showed a little compassion.
Had May done so, the situation would have been perhaps a little less tense.

[Shaker]

When it comes to ridiculing the institution of monarchy (rather than the individuals) I'm first in line to start.
But - fair play to old Lizzie and Wee Wullie - they did what that dismal apology of a prime minister should have done - showed a little compassion.
Had May done so, the situation would have been perhaps a little less tense.

Royalty is an absurd arachnophobiaism in this D & A and I've no time whatever for weak and wobbly Wendy, but I hope I'm fair-minded enough to agree that this is perfectly true.

[Nearly Sane]

Indeed, I am fed up of the idea that this is somehow not political.



http://www.lbc.co.uk/news/london/west/kensington-chelsea/grenfell-tower-fire/mp-david-lammy-hits-back-at-boris-johnsons/

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Indeed, I am fed up of the idea that this is somehow not political.



http://www.lbc.co.uk/news/london/west/kensington-chelsea/grenfell-tower-fire/mp-david-lammy-hits-back-at-boris-johnsons/

A recent opinion column described Johnson as someone who could bring the building down and not get caught by the wreckage. If he read that article it looks as though he has believed it rather than taking it as a criticism. Johnson should not float above the state of the abilities of the rescue services or problems with the City he was mayor of till 2016.

By rights he should not survive Brexit.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Volunteer attacked and beaten at Grenfall after being mistaken for official.

The perpetrator/s should be found and experience the full force of the law.

A jail sentence would be in order.

[floo]

Volunteer attacked and beaten at Grenfall after being mistaken for official.

The perpetrator/s should be found and experience the full force of the law.

A jail sentence would be in order.

DISGUSTING!

[floo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40327357

[Rhiannon]

Royalty is an absurd arachnophobiaism in this D & A and I've no time whatever for weak and wobbly Wendy, but I hope I'm fair-minded enough to agree that this is perfectly true.

I've never thought May lacked the ability to empathise. I think she isn't especially strong and her decision to run was cowardice, not a lack of empathy.

[Shaker]

I've never thought May lacked the ability to empathise. I think she isn't especially strong and her decision to run was cowardice, not a lack of empathy.

That's certainly how I saw it.

[Nearly Sane]

.. I couldn't possibly comment


https://vimeo.com/222034879

[Bubbles]

Apparently the cladding used on Grenfell was banned in the uk.

Chancellor Philip Hammond says Grenfell cladding was banned in UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40318318

[SweetPea]

One report said the original fire in the flat on the fourth floor was put out and the fire crew were leaving the building when they were told that the cladding on the outside of the building was on fire. So was this a separate fire and thus how did it start....

[Nearly Sane]

Apparently the cladding used on Grenfell was banned in the uk.

Chancellor Philip Hammond says Grenfell cladding was banned in UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40318318

He says 'it's his understanding', so that isn't a categoric statement and it's coming from a non expert on a subject he isn't the govt minister for. He may be correct but until it is confirmed by the govt, it's not yet clear.

[Nearly Sane]

Good for Mr Murray


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/40341340

[Rhiannon]

Nice. I've noticed footballers getting involved too.