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Bubbles

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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #75 on: June 24, 2017, 06:33:25 PM »
never mind your coat, get an iPhone , a 12 year old child will be able to tell you how to use it . ::) ::) ::)

I've got an iPhone  :o check out post *50.

I already know how to use it.

Have you lost your glasses?

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« Reply #76 on: June 24, 2017, 06:41:21 PM »
nice try , when did you last go in a pub and actually  enjoy it  without condemning everyone who was in there ?

Have you got some issue with me Walter?

Is it something I've said?

As my post shows, I already have an iPhone.

What's the matter?

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« Reply #77 on: June 24, 2017, 06:42:34 PM »
I've got an iPhone  :o check out post *50.

I already know how to use it.

Have you lost your glasses?

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please excuse me ROSE   I was addressing Floo.  I've got my specs on now but the 7 pints of old gold at lunch time are betraying my composure .
 

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« Reply #78 on: June 24, 2017, 06:43:53 PM »
please excuse me ROSE   I was addressing Floo.  I've got my specs on now but the 7 pints of old gold at lunch time are betraying my composure .

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Well I'm glad that's sorted  ;)

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« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2017, 06:49:10 PM »
;D

Well I'm glad that's sorted  ;)
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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2017, 10:16:05 PM »
Asking permission to phone someone? YE GODS.

I do that quite a lot. If I know somebody who I want to speak to is has a meeting, I'll text them to see if it's over yet.
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« Reply #81 on: June 24, 2017, 11:52:09 PM »
I do that quite a lot. If I know somebody who I want to speak to is has a meeting, I'll text them to see if it's over yet.
It's not even "asking permission"; it's showing a bit of consideration toward somebody who may be busy and unable to speak on the phone.
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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #82 on: June 25, 2017, 06:48:29 AM »
I have some sympathy with your viewpoint as being available 24/7 can be tiresome..but you can switch them off. Surely the real persuasive argument is in case of emergencies when you aren't at home. I actually can't see any reson not to have one even if as only a safety back up.
Like me, quite a few of my friends have mobile phones, but keep them switched off unless we want to use them. Those who know us know that they are switched off!
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« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2017, 06:53:19 AM »
Why is it inconvenient and inconsiderate, I don't get it? Why do people want instant communication? I would detest being in constant contact with people, even my nearest and dearest, I need time to myself throughout the day.
As far as I'm concerned, I have no choice. I'd love to be able to text and read texts!   There are models available which have audio accessibility but I cannot think of any reason to get one.
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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2017, 06:58:48 AM »
Just had to get out of the shower to answer the phone for something that could have been put in a text.  >:(
Doesn't it have a message taker, or whatever you call it? I have an answerphone at home so that if I'm taking a shower or something, I can leave the phone if it rings.
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« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2017, 08:43:41 AM »
As you can leave a voice message on most phones, mobile or landlines, I have no idea why people like Rhi think that sending a text message is the only way to go about it! In fact it would appear some people spend more time texting than speaking, at this rate the human race will lose the ability to speak. I have heard that some folk actually text each other when in the same room in their homes. :o And people think I am the crazy one! ::) It seems to me mobile phone use has got completely out of hand especially with young people, who seem to be surgically attached to their phones. They walk along to school busy texting, apparently not aware of what is going on around them. I had to drag one kid back a few months ago, when he nearly got run over by a car, he hadn't checked the road before he crossed it as he was too busy on his phone! :o

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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2017, 09:00:12 AM »
(Re texting)
I do that quite a lot. If I know somebody who I want to speak to is has a meeting, I'll text them to see if it's over yet.

It's not even "asking permission"; it's showing a bit of consideration toward somebody who may be busy and unable to speak on the phone.

Agreed, texting is especially useful at work.They don't cause a disturbance & texts are easier to read than listening to messages. WHen texting folk tend to keep to the point & give relevant information which can be actioned immediately by the reader. The same text can also be sent to several people if necessary.
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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2017, 09:13:16 AM »
Being of a certain age texting doesn't come easy to me, so I stick to short messages of the 'on way home' variety. Since my natural inclination is to try to spell and punctuate properly I find that texting quickly becomes frustrating if I spot, say, a spelling mistake six words back.

My kids and older grand-kids seem to be able to text rapidly, with thumbs a-flying, without even looking at the screen! 

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« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2017, 09:44:37 AM »
As you can leave a voice message on most phones, mobile or landlines, I have no idea why people like Rhi think that sending a text message is the only way to go about it! In fact it would appear some people spend more time texting than speaking, at this rate the human race will lose the ability to speak. I have heard that some folk actually text each other when in the same room in their homes. :o And people think I am the crazy one! ::) It seems to me mobile phone use has got completely out of hand especially with young people, who seem to be surgically attached to their phones. They walk along to school busy texting, apparently not aware of what is going on around them. I had to drag one kid back a few months ago, when he nearly got run over by a car, he hadn't checked the road before he crossed it as he was too busy on his phone! :o

'People like Rhi' prefer texting to voicemail as listening to a message is far less discreet and takes longer than glancing at a text. And refusal to accept texting necessitates a phone call in reply.

The idea that people spend more time texting than talking is largely a myth. And some young people may be glued to their phones but they are unlikely to be texting. They will be using another messaging service, gaming or sorting their music stream.

I've already tried to explain why texting before making a phone call is good, and not just in the workplace. I can tell my dad he's rung at an inconvenient time and he's fine with it but it's still caused distruption. My friends who text before ringing (and sometimes I'm the one who texts them) know that when we've arranged a time to chat we are both relaxed and comfortable and can enjoy the conversation.

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« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2017, 10:46:29 AM »
'People like Rhi' prefer texting to voicemail as listening to a message is far less discreet and takes longer than glancing at a text. And refusal to accept texting necessitates a phone call in reply.

The idea that people spend more time texting than talking is largely a myth. And some young people may be glued to their phones but they are unlikely to be texting. They will be using another messaging service, gaming or sorting their music stream.

I've already tried to explain why texting before making a phone call is good, and not just in the workplace. I can tell my dad he's rung at an inconvenient time and he's fine with it but it's still caused distruption. My friends who text before ringing (and sometimes I'm the one who texts them) know that when we've arranged a time to chat we are both relaxed and comfortable and can enjoy the conversation.

Each to their own, you are happy texting, fine, I am happy not doing so, which is also fine.

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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2017, 04:31:33 PM »
I find iPhones a breeze.

No doubt. But iTunes sucks.
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« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2017, 04:36:49 PM »
I don't know anyone who uses text speak, stupid or otherwise. People I know use English. But not understanding the way some use it is no reason to reject it.

I occasionally use text speak (usually ironically). Mostly I write short texts in full English spelling, as terse as possible to convey the intended meaning.

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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #92 on: June 27, 2017, 11:59:06 AM »
u wot m8
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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #93 on: June 27, 2017, 12:32:07 PM »
I hate text speak. They don't even teach joined-up writing in schools anymore, at least not over here. Soon people won't be able to write at all.
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« Reply #94 on: June 27, 2017, 01:59:33 PM »
I hate text speak. They don't even teach joined-up writing in schools anymore, at least not over here. Soon people won't be able to write at all.

I suspect in years to come writing with a pen/pencil will be as outdated as writing with a quill pen.

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« Reply #95 on: June 27, 2017, 02:08:20 PM »
I suspect in years to come writing with a pen/pencil will be as outdated as writing with a quill pen.
It's an odd one, for most people in terms of writing some form of stylus will be quicker than typing for the next few years but it is only recently that usable stylus and tablet have been economic. However, the obvious speediest way will be voice, though that changes style significantly. And then at some stage thought when I suspect our stream of consciousness will shock us into silence.

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« Reply #96 on: June 27, 2017, 03:59:22 PM »
It's an odd one, for most people in terms of writing some form of stylus will be quicker than typing for the next few years but it is only recently that usable stylus and tablet have been economic. However, the obvious speediest way will be voice, though that changes style significantly. And then at some stage thought when I suspect our stream of consciousness will shock us into silence.

I suspect that you are right in predicting a growth in voice recognition - though if the tv subtitles are anything to go by its results may well be approximate in some cases.

My iPhone and iPad enable me to text in acceptable English by having predictive text - based on (I presume) a mixture of orthography and grammatical structure a selection of possible words is available and I choose one. I think that this is available with word processors as well.
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Re: Phones are too smart
« Reply #97 on: June 28, 2017, 04:23:58 PM »
u wot m8

"c u aO, Rh" stands for "See you around, Rhiannon". The 'O' is round - geddit? :-)
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« Reply #98 on: June 28, 2017, 06:01:21 PM »
"c u aO, Rh" stands for "See you around, Rhiannon". The 'O' is round - geddit? :-)

I'm glad you explained.  :D