Tieless

[Nearly Sane]

I collect ties but I have to say this makes sense to me.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40446102

[floo]

I thought business like attire for a man would include a tie. My husband wouldn't have dreamed of not wearing one when he was a head teacher.

[Shaker]

Colourful and interesting though they can be, from a functional point of view ties really are about the most useless item of clothing going.

I can't even remember the last time I wore one.

[Rhiannon]

Good to see. Hopefully this will be extended to schools.

[Nearly Sane]

I thought business like attire for a man would include a tie. My husband wouldn't have dreamed of not wearing one when he was a head teacher.

Things change.

[floo]

Things change.

They certainly do.

[Anchorman]

Bloomin Croats have a lot to answer for.

[jeremyp]

I thought business like attire for a man would include a tie. My husband wouldn't have dreamed of not wearing one when he was a head teacher.

It's very rare nowadays for a company to insist on a tie. This is mainly due to people being more relaxed about business attire but there is also the issue of equality. i.e. women have never been required to wear ties.

[Rhiannon]

It's very rare nowadays for a company to insist on a tie. This is mainly due to people being more relaxed about business attire but there is also the issue of equality. i.e. women have never been required to wear ties.

Which is why I raised the issue about schools. Girls as well as boys are often required to wear ties now when the reality is that it's becoming increasingly unusual for ties to form a part of business dress. That coupled with the fact that teachers usually don't wear ties or even business dress makes formal uniform unhelpful and irrelevant.

[floo]

Which is why I raised the issue about schools. Girls as well as boys are often required to wear ties now when the reality is that it's becoming increasingly unusual for ties to form a part of business dress. That coupled with the fact that teachers usually don't wear ties or even business dress makes formal uniform unhelpful and irrelevant.

I had to wear a school tie in the 60s when I attended a Ladies College.

[Harrowby Hall]

I recall hearing a radio programme about modern dress in which an "expert" was asked why men wear ties. He suggested that it might be a phallic symbol. Well, I suppose it's an advance on the codpiece.

Historically, male "smart" attire was a sign of servility. It was worn by servants who were thus denied the opportunity of self-expression in their dress. When the London Symphony Orchestra appears in black tail suits is a reminder of the time when musicians were members of the servant class.

I very seldom wear a neck tie. I did not have to in my employment and seldom did.

[Shaker]

I recall hearing a radio programme about modern dress in which an "expert" was asked why men wear ties. He suggested that it might be a phallic symbol. Well, I suppose it's an advance on the codpiece.

For some 

I very seldom wear a neck tie. I did not have to in my employment and seldom did.

Me too. Looking back on more decades than I would like to number I can't think of any job I've had where I had to wear a tie. On the infrequent occasions where I've worn a tie they were personal/family/social events - and I wonder if I did so only because I, like all the other men, unthinkingly thought it expected for some reason.

In which case: smash the system. Stop wearing ties.

[floo]

When my husband was teaching chemistry as a young man at an independent school in Bath in the early 70s, he not only had to wear a suit and tie, he also had to wear a gown. Not an easy thing to wear when conducting chemistry experiments!

[Harrowby Hall]

I can't think of any job I've had where I had to wear a tie.

I recall, in the mid-1960s, working in an office contained within a factory building on the Slough Trading Estate, when a clerical colleague was formally reprimanded for wearing a corduroy jacket instead of a suit. No-one from outside the organisation ever came into this office. It was, of course, at the time where a prominent branch of Montague Burton decorated every High Street.

[ad_orientem]

Maybe people increasingly don't wear ties because they don't know how to tie them. Personally I quite like getting suited and booted, including wearing a tie. Unfortunately I seldom get an occasion to do so.

[Shaker]

Maybe people increasingly don't wear ties because they don't know how to tie them.

I know how; it's just a silly, fatuous, futile, pointless thing, that's all.

Just like religion.

Oh: did I mention religion? Oops.

But anyway: ties are the same. Occasionally decorative but basically useless. I know how to tie the basic four-in-hand, Windsor knot and proper/real i.e. non-elastic bow tie too, but that's purely for my own transitory gratification.

Which is to say, looks smart for a brief function, but that's all.

I.e. religion again 

[Humph Warden Bennett]

All the jobs that I have held have required me to wear a tie, with the exception of pet grooming.

It's worth remembering that in many environments dress codes for females are actually less strict than those for males.

[Robbie]

The 'fashion' for wearing ties has been dying out for years now. They are useless articles.  Being smart is different to how it once was. I wore a tie as part of my school uniform as did my girls and my dad always wore one to work as a chemistry teacher, like floo's husband. Don't know when I last saw him wear a tie  .
Same goes for my husband, he used to wear one but now doesn't even for meetings.

In my previous job there was a strict dress code for men and women which included ties for men. I left there twelve years ago and don't know if the same applies, would be surprised if it did. Where I work now we all dress fairly casually and comfortably and are none the worse for it.

Times change and in this case for the better!

[floo]

My husband (70) usually wears jeans and a short sleeved shirt, unbuttoned at the top, these days.

[Udayana]

Useless? But surely there must be a 1001 different uses? Perhaps not as many as a bandanna or scout type scarf.

[Rhiannon]

I've seen old silk ties made into skirts and dresses.