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Rhiannon

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Handmaids in Missouri
« on: June 30, 2017, 11:08:50 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/dad7562f-05b5-428c-8568-b5648674dcda

This is one of the scariest things I've read recently.
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Shaker

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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2017, 11:10:15 AM »
True. But stuff like this crops up pretty regularly and almost never gets anywhere.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 11:11:39 AM »
Let's hope you are right. Perhaps it's that it feels a part of a pattern of oppression now. I don't know.
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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 11:28:14 AM »
YE GODS!!! >:( :o It makes me even more thankful I live in the UK and not across the pond.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2017, 11:37:55 AM »
Something or other about American society/culture seems to produce these ... well, nutters. I wish somebody could identify what the hell it is.
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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2017, 11:50:43 AM »
The nuttier side of faith is your ticket in, isn't it? To work, the neighbourhood, marriage, society. Belief is essential. Otherwise you are an outcast.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 11:52:13 AM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on June 30, 2017, 11:50:43 AM
The nuttier side of faith is your ticket in, isn't it? To work, the neighbourhood, marriage, society. Belief is essential. Otherwise you are an outcast.
But other countries - consider Europe - have politicians with religious beliefs (not in great numbers, but they're there), yet they don't seem to churn out these abject fruit loops with the depressing regularity that the US does.
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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 12:02:59 PM »
What is it about the US and religion? How many TV evangelists are there in the UK and the rest of Europe? I can't think of any off hand. The US seems to be teeming with these parasites preying off the gullible, who are daft enough to give them their hard earned dosh. Have you ever heard of a poor TV evangelist?
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 12:06:12 PM »
Quote from: Floo on June 30, 2017, 12:02:59 PM
What is it about the US and religion?
I, and I suspect a great many sociologists, would love to know.
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How many TV evangelists are there in the UK and the rest of Europe? I can't think of any off hand.
I know that there are some satellite channels that broadcast this sort of thing - where they're based I have no idea.
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Have you ever heard of a poor TV evangelist?
No. I've never heard of an alleged faith healer volunteering their services at the local hospital either.
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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 12:28:34 PM »
A faith healer from the UK visited our Pentecostal church in 1963 when I was 13, a day or two before I was due to have an operation to sort out a lazy eye. My parents tried to get me to attend the service and hopefully receive healing. I had a gut instinct that it was all a con, even at that young age, and flatly refused to go. I preferred to have the surgery than submit to so called faith healing. I heard later that others in the congregation thought the chap was a conman too.
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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2017, 03:19:03 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on June 30, 2017, 12:06:12 PM
I, and I suspect a great many sociologists, would love to know.I know that there are some satellite channels that broadcast this sort of thing - where they're based I have no idea.No. I've never heard of an alleged faith healer volunteering their services at the local hospital either.

I have, I used to know one who did.
She used to get asked and go and visit them.

Nothing official though.
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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2017, 03:20:44 PM »
Quote from: Rose on June 30, 2017, 03:19:03 PM
I have, I used to know one who did.
She used to get asked and go and visit them.
What happened?
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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2017, 03:24:52 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on June 30, 2017, 03:20:44 PM
What happened?

She put her hands on them, they often said they felt better, she was quite popular.

Not sure how it went down with the doctors and nurses though.

She felt her heal rate was quite high, and improvements were down to her healing.

People used to say that to her though, that they improved after she had been and they started feeling better.

Not my thing really, but she was a friend.



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Shaker

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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2017, 03:28:10 PM »
Quote from: Rose on June 30, 2017, 03:24:52 PM
She put her hands on them, they often said they felt better, she was quite popular.

Not sure how it went down with the doctors and nurses though.

She felt her heal rate was quite high, and improvements were down to her healing.
Well yes ... she would, wouldn't she?  ;)
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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2017, 03:31:50 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on June 30, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Well yes ... she would, wouldn't she?  ;)

Yes, I know.

She also believed her spirit guide was a red indian chief, which used to make me smile, because these spirit guides usually are 🙂

She was an elderly disabled lady, a bit odd, but she had a heart of gold and would help anyone.

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Re: Handmaids in Missouri
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2017, 03:34:11 PM »
I once attended one of her seances, far funnier than portrayed in comedy and I had to try and keep a straight face 😉💐
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Rhiannon

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 03:37:44 PM »
Loads of people offer healing of various kinds at hospices, and on cancer wards. It's very common. My local mental health group offers it too. Those places that accept help do so because it may alleviate symptoms, and help deal with the effects of chemo etc, not to affect a 'cure'. Even if the effects last an hour or two, that's a little respite.
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