life on the breadline.

[Rhiannon]

I adore my car, it's an ex demo and just had its first MOT. I intend to lose it only when keeping it is uneconomical or unsafe.

[Shaker]

I adore my car, it's an ex demo and just had its first MOT. I intend to lose it only when keeping it is uneconomical or unsafe.

That's when you're driving the thing, isn't it? 

[Rhiannon]

That's when you're driving the thing, isn't it? 

 

[Robbie]

If it ain't broke don't fix it!
My dad had his last car for years until he gave up driving at 87. It was immaculate.

My car is about four years old, I bought it at two. Long may it survive, it's lovely! I did have a brand new car when I was young, i remember people used to say then it was better to buy a new one but change it after two years (where did that come from?). I had mine for about seve n years & twas still good when I traded it in. At the time I needed something a bit more roomy, or thought I did at the time.

What I could do with is a new laptop. This one has a cracked screen, depending on the position and light it can be difficult to read what I type,peculiar little squares appear sometimes & the cursor flutters! So I'm thinking about a new Mac. Yet I could probably have this Dell repaired, it was repaired for something else earlier in the year, so we'll see.

[Rhiannon]

I did just upgrade my iPod, using my phone isn't the same and iTunes stopped talking to my Classic. I love it, although it's weird having something like my phone only it doesn't make phone calls.

[Bubbles]

I did just upgrade my iPod, using my phone isn't the same and iTunes stopped talking to my Classic. I love it, although it's weird having something like my phone only it doesn't make phone calls.

If your phone is with 02 you can download an app called TU go, which means all messages and calls go through all your devices. So then you can take calls and messages on your IPod or IPad.

When a call comes through you can take it from any of your devices, and they ALL ring 😁 Not just your iPhone.

Text also goes to them all

https://tu.com/en/

You can turn everything into a phone 😁💐

[Nearly Sane]

Samantha Cameron didn't say she was on the breadline.
During the interview, amongst other things,she said(was probably  asked), she can't afford  to go out and buy all sorts of designer clothes,she has a family & big mortgage. Like lots of other people! She has to budget. Her budget  is bigger than many,  smaller than some.

Her own line of clothing,Cefinn, is excellent! It's been well received so far &I hope  it goes on to be a great success. I admire independent women.

No, she didn't say she was on the breadline, that was me using irony. The reason for doing so is that  S Cameron isn't just any woman and her comments show a jaw dropping lack if awareness, empathy and humility. Now we have to be careful that this is obviously a reported conversation but it is essentially a puff piece in a paper sympathetic to her position and that of her husband. Now, she is not responsible for all the actions of her husband but she has never spoken out against the actions of the govt he led, which voted for the paycap on public sector workers, for people who save lives.

For her then to talk about not how she 'didn’t have disposable income, with childcare and mortgage etc, to buy designer clothes', when people affected by those policies didn't have disposable income to put food on the table for their kids is echoing Marie Antoinette. I an sure she worked hard at her venture and,good luck to her, but I bet it's a tad easier being the wife of someone who was PM. Throughout a lit of the scandals we have seen recently, there is a mephitic stink of corruption. Murdoch has just been approved to take over SKY completely not long after Leveson. His former editors were a close friend of Cameron and another an employee.


We are in the midst of the repercussions of Grenfell, in walking distance from one of the 2 homes the Cameron's use, the one which is worth 2 million that thet rent out, not the one where Dave has just spent 25,000 on a shed, so I would expect her to think that this doesn't reflect well on her thoughts. If she had any awareness, she could easily have avoided what sounds like a whinge about not having enough disposable income when her husband can earn 100,000 from a single speech.

I don't begrudge anyone making money or spending it in ways I might think frivolous but I think the wife of the ex PM shows a complete lack of humility in not underlining just how lucky she is.

[floo]

I can never understand why people want to buy brand new cars. Throwing money down the drain imo. Still if you've got it to waste then its up to you!

I have had many used cars over the years, but never found them entirely satisfactory. I can afford to buy a new car wherever I want one, so why not, it isn't as if I spend my money on any other frippery.

[Robbie]

Quite right floo, everyone is allowed at least one luxury if they can afford it & one man's luxury is another man's whatever.

My sister had a horse stabled locally for some years until it died, she then decided not to have another one, was happy to just go riding at the stables with her children, but she loved that horse and it was good for all of them & us while she had him.

NS I feel you are being harsh on Sam Cam, no doubt she does appreciate what she has & she's done nothing wrong. Was almost certainly quoted out of context by that newspaper & she isn't responsible for mistakes made by her husband. She's a person in her own right, not just wife of ex-PM. I feel no resentment of her success or any of her material wealth, don't think she was rubbing anyone's nose in anything. She has undoubtedly  had bad times- not all bad times are financial. All the money in the world doesn't buy good health and happiness or stop anyone feeling grief.

[Nearly Sane]

Quite right floo, everyone is allowed at least one luxury if they can afford it & one man's luxury is another man's whatever.

My sister had a horse stabled locally for some years until it died, she then decided not to have another one, was happy to just go riding at the stables with her children, but she loved that horse and it was good for all of them & us while she had him.

NS I feel you are being harsh on Sam Cam, no doubt she does appreciate what she has & she's done nothing wrong. Was almost certainly quoted out of context by that newspaper & she isn't responsible for mistakes made by her husband. She's a person in her own right, not just wife of ex-PM. I feel no resentment of her success or any of her material wealth, don't think she was rubbing anyone's nose in anything. She has undoubtedly  had bad times- not all bad times are financial. All the money in the world doesn't buy good health and happiness or stop anyone feeling grief.

Any evidence that she was quoted out of context? Again you have ignored that this is a Tory friendly paper, that she could easily have stressed how lucky she is and that she had undoubtedly benefitted from being the OM's wife in setting up any business. Any evidence that she opposed stripping of  benefits from disabled people under her partner's govt where people died as a result? 

[Robbie]

She is not responsible for her stupid husband's actions.Yes it is a Tory loving paper but still couldn't resist making a big thing out of some of what she said - which I believe was deliberately provocative though I have no proof. Honestly you are making too much of this NS. Take it out on the Tory MPs not their wives or husbands - or are they gullty by association?

[Shaker]

Honestly you are making too much of this NS. Take it out on the Tory MPs not their wives or husbands - or are they gullty by association?

Generally the safest course of action with Tories 

[Nearly Sane]

She is not responsible for her stupid husband's actions.Yes it is a Tory loving paper but still couldn't resist making a big thing out of some of what she said - which I believe was deliberately provocative though I have no proof. Honestly you are making too much of this NS. Take it out on the Tory MPs not their wives or husbands - or are they gullty by association?

If they are their own people as you argue and don't speak out against policies that lead to people dying, then pretty much yes. Let's remember this is the wife of the PM, who led the party and govt, that put in place policies that hounded disabled people to death. And that she has benefitted in setting up her business from the connections that exist because of that.

[Rhiannon]

Just sounds to me like a bit of puff in her marketing/motivational talk - she was pitching to an audience that would relate to what she said, if not the reality of her family income. Something and nothing cherry picked by a rag.

[Nearly Sane]

Just sounds to me like a bit of puff in her marketing/motivational talk - she was pitching to an audience that would relate to what she said, if not the reality of her family income. Something and nothing cherry picked by a rag.

And maybe fine except because of who she is, and her husband having presided over supporting a regime where people have died because of the realities of their dispisable income. and in a rag sympathetic to her.

[Rhiannon]

I don't find the article sympathetic.

You may be right to loathe her husband for what he did, with or without her support, but I don't see the relevance here.

[Nearly Sane]

I don't find the article sympathetic.

You may be right to loathe her husband for what he did, with or without her support, but I don't see the relevance here.

  Because she by not speaking out did support a policy that lead to the deaths of peopke through lack of actual disposable income, and she runs through a worry here tgat mocks that

[Rhiannon]

  Because she by not speaking out did support a policy that lead to the deaths of peopke through lack of actual disposable income, and she runs through a worry here tgat mocks that

No, it's not a worry though, is it? It's a marketing line that says to her very specific audience, we are all working women here,I empathise, go and buy some of my clobber because it's cheaper than designer but look, it's just as good! It's not a genuine complaint and it wasn't meant for general consumption or to generate sympathy.

[Nearly Sane]

No, it's not a worry though, is it? It's a marketing line that says to her very specific audience, we are all working women here,I empathise, go and buy some of my clobber because it's cheaper than designer but look, it's just as good! It's not a genuine complaint and it wasn't meant for general consumption or to generate sympathy.

In what way is a marketing line not meant to create the sympathy of she's on, just like us, with the same worries?  and if it wasn't for general consumption is trying to get a puff piece in a national newspaper not exactly the wrong way to go.

[Rhiannon]

Whatever. She doesn't interest me enough to make it worth debating over further.

[Anchorman]

If they are their own people as you argue and don't speak out against policies that lead to people dying, then pretty much yes. Let's remember this is the wife of the PM, who led the party and govt, that put in place policies that hounded disabled people to death. And that she has benefitted in setting up her business from the connections that exist because of that.

Wee correction;

Those policies are STILL hounding disabled people to death. Cameron's wife is a member of the party which advocated, promulgated and enacted those policies - and bears some responsibility for them in that she was, as I said, a member of the Tory party.
Let her eat bacon....hubby's bound to have some spare.

[ProfessorDavey]

Not a parody!!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/28/samantha-cameron-cant-afford-designer-clothes-have-kids-mortgage/amp/

Of course she can afford designer clothes, this is a cute bit of marketing. She is marketing a line of clothes in the 'gap' between high street and designer prices so what better marketing than to imply that this is because she, herself, needed something at that price point.