Legal and consented Female Genital Mutilation

[Nearly Sane]

If I had any suspicion they watched porn, took drugs, were alcoholics or smoked, our children would never have been permitted anywhere near their homes!

We got to know the parents of all our children's friends and with one exception we had no problems with them. The exception we reported to social services and the children were removed when it was discovered he was abusing them. Fortunately they went back to their mother who had divorced him.

Confirmation bias lives and breathes.  My parents smoked but I vaguely hope they would have worried about me being friends with your children as you abused them with logical fallacies.

[Shaker]

Sensible parents are also aware that there will be a few things about their childrens' lives that they don't know & that's normal too.

Not only normal but essential.

[Rhiannon]

Not only normal but essential.

Quite. This is why I don't assume to supervise my kids' use of their devices.

[floo]

Confirmation bias lives and breathes.  My parents smoked but I vaguely hope they would have worried about me being friends with your children as you abused them with logical fallacies.

I have no idea what you are talking about? Surely protecting children from people whose lifestyles will do them harm is what all good parents should be doing.

Our children claimed to have enjoyed their childhood, and our part in it.  We encouraged them to question everything and we always listened to their opinions.

[Nearly Sane]

I have no idea what you are talking about? Surely protecting children from people whose lifestyles will do them harm is what all good parents should be doing.

Our children claimed to have enjoyed their childhood, and our part in it.  We encouraged them to question everything and we always listened to their opinions.

You just used an example of confirmation bias to justify yourself. That you don't understand the dangers of illogical thinking like that is sad but why should you be allowed to abuse your children and their friends like that?

[Shaker]

I have no idea what you are talking about? Surely protecting children from people whose lifestyles will do them harm is what all good parents should be doing.

The parents' "lifestyles" are their own business and exceedingly unlikely to impinge on someone else's kids in the length of time it takes to go round for tea or to play games or whatever. I'd imagine in fact that when one lot of kids goes round to the house of other kids they'd rather be out of the way of the oldies in any case. Kids typically don't go round to houses to visit their friends' parents; they go to visit their friends.

[floo]

The parents' "lifestyles" are their own business and exceedingly unlikely to impinge on someone else's kids in the length of time it takes to go round for tea or to play games or whatever. I'd imagine in fact that when one lot of kids goes round to the house of other kids they'd rather be out of the way of the oldies in any case.

They were our business if we didn't approve of them, and thought they would harm our children.

[Shaker]

They were our business if we didn't approve of them, and thought they would harm our children.

Which to me demonstrates a downright creepy level of control and intrusion, as well as a lack of trust of the other parents.

[floo]

Which to me demonstrates a downright creepy level of control and intrusion, as well as a lack of trust of the other parents.

You only trust people if you have reason to trust them. I make no apology for the way we brought our kids up, they weren't unhappy, believe you me they would certainly have screamed blue murder if they were, they had complete freedom of speech.

[Shaker]

You only trust people if you have reason to trust them.

I'm a long way from being a people person to put it mildly, but what a sad and impoverished view to take - where everyone is guilty until proven innocent, automatically untrustworthy until demonstrated otherwise. I'm not necessarily a great one for loving my neighbour - I'd much rather remain friends and leave it there - but no thanks, not for me.

[Aruntraveller]

I'm a long way from being a people person to put it mildly, but what a sad and impoverished view to take - where everyone is guilty until proven innocent, automatically untrustworthy until demonstrated otherwise. I'm not necessarily a great one for loving my neighbour - I'd much rather remain friends and leave it there - but no thanks, not for me.

Still one could presumably stop your children going to the house of other parents who say their house is haunted - I mean there must be something not quite right there, surely.

[Rhiannon]

You only trust people if you have reason to trust them.

That is horrendous.

[Shaker]

Still one could presumably stop your children going to the house of other parents who say their house is haunted - I mean there must be something not quite right there, surely.

Tut 

[floo]

That is horrendous.

Why is horrendous? 

[floo]

Still one could presumably stop your children going to the house of other parents who say their house is haunted - I mean there must be something not quite right there, surely.

Ehhhhhhhh?

[Bubbles]

We would never have let our children visit their homes of their friends unless we got to know the parents well first.

what about if they were invited to a child's birthday party?

At their home?

Not all working parents would have time for you to "get to know them well" before hand.

My two would have been upset at not even being allowed to go to a friends party.

 

[floo]

what about if they were invited to a child's birthday party?

At their home?

Not all working parents would have time for you to "get to know them well" before hand.

My two would have been upset at not even being allowed to go to a friends party.

 

We would have been irresponsible if we hadn't got to know the parents first. Our girls know well the parents of all their kid's friends. 

[Bubbles]

We would have been irresponsible if we hadn't got to know the parents first. Our girls know well the parents of all their kid's friends.

Isn't that choosing your children's friends though?

Children don't always choose friends just because their parents, get on well with their friends  parents.

[floo]

Isn't that choosing your children's friends though?

Children don't always choose friends because their parents, get on with their friends  parents.

Fortunately it didn't happen.

[Rhiannon]

We would have been irresponsible if we hadn't got to know the parents first. Our girls know well the parents of all their kid's friends.

How unhealthy.

[Bubbles]

Fortunately it didn't happen.

I think your attitude is awful!

Your poor kids!

 

[floo]

I think your attitude is awful!

Your poor kids!

 

What is awful about protecting young kids from unsuitable people? It is a great pity more parents don't do so today.

[Rhiannon]

Fortunately it didn't happen.

You sure about that?

[Bubbles]

What is awful about protecting young kids from unsuitable people? It is a great pity more parents don't do so today.

It's your judgemental attitude towards other people, Floo.
People you don't actually know.

I'm appalled! TBH.

That level of control isn't good.

[floo]

You sure about that?

Yes quite sure.