Jersey Child Abuse!

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[Nearly Sane]

It's hugely shocking but that's a really badly written report about any connection to what is happening now.

[Robbie]

It is a very vague,disjointed report. heartbreaking but vague.
No doubt we'll hear more.
Nothing new either unfortunately (except for the electric stuff! Horrendous).

[Harrowby Hall]

"It's the Jersey way."

How many times have I heard that, in my frequent visits to Jersey! Of course, it is supposed to be a statement of pride, of honour, of independent thinking, of assertion.

But now it has acquired a further meaning. It will be interesting to see how long this new meaning will last.

Small communities everywhere have their secrets. I recall, growing up in Lincolnshire, hearing about the reputed misadventures of local prominent businessmen, carefully covered up to save them from shame.

[Bubbles]

The Channel Islands are no different to the UK regarding child abuse cover ups.

Their history was a bit different

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/how-jerseys-nazi-children-disappeared-1353692.html

There are undercurrents which might exist on the Channel Islands, which people on the UK mainland didn't go through.

How your own childhood went, might affect how you relate to other children as an adult.

On Guernsey children were starving I heard from one " child" of the time who was there.

It's known that children who were abused, can go on to be abusers.

No excuse, I know.

But the Channel Islands had a different history to the rest of mainland uk.

Where did those children in the article go?

Having lived there, perhaps you have come across this?

[Harrowby Hall]

First of all, I think it inappropriate to link the institutionalised child abuse investigated in Jersey with the conditions in the Channel Islands during WW2. There is no connection between these two events.

Secondly, I think that conditions existing in the Channel Islands during WW2 were horrific and the article which Rose has used is lacking in depth. As most people know, the Channel Islands were the only part of the British Isles that were occupied by German forces.

For the most part, the people living there were the elderly, children and women. Most of the able-bodied male population had gone to the mainland and joined the UK armed forces. The German occupational forces overwhelmed the islanders. They ran a reign of terror - people were executed for possessing homing pigeons. The Germans ensured that their own occupying personnel had access to all food supplies leaving islanders to scrape a living from what was left behind. It is hardly surprising that some women did form liaisons with Germans (and it is worth remembering that there were many decent Germans who were simply caught up in a national moral meltdown),

After D-Day and the liberation of Normandy, Churchill refused to consider liberating the islands. Instead he imposed a blockade on the islands in the hope of starving the Germans out - supplies for the islanders by Red Cross ships did eventually arrive.

The Channel Islands were not liberated until the day after the German defeat. And for a period afterwards, routine policing duties were carried out by demobilised German soldiers under British control.

Haut de la Garenne had nothing to do with WW2.

[Bubbles]

I have no idea about Jersey not having lived there, and only visited the place a couple of times.

Well the people I knew lived on Guernsey.
Apparently life was tough there too.