Atheists less tolerant

[Maeght]

From the description of the methodology the study sounds very odd.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

You'll have no problem reading this then:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/06/29/no-a-new-study-doesnt-show-atheists-are-more-closed-minded-than-believers/

I've read it. The most useful thing were the quotes from the study rather than the optimistic for atheism (They obviously have overlooked Dawkinsian injunctions to tolerate less) tone of the in between bits.

[ProfessorDavey]

From the description of the methodology the study sounds very odd.

It is - imagine you were a participant and the statement was:

“Ensuring equality for people regardless of their race is a positive advance for society”

I would give that my wholehearted support. I would feel pretty uncomfortable proving 'arguments against' that statement, but perhaps could - I would, however be unable, on principle, to provide any support whatsoever for any argument against. Yet if I did this, nail my colours to the mast of race equality which most people would conclude to be a cornerstone of tolerance, I would be indicated to be intolerant under this methodology.

It is bizarre.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I have noticed that this thread became very rapidly unpopular .......snigger.

[Nearly Sane]

I have noticed that this thread became very rapidly unpopular .......snigger.

That's nice, dear! Do you want custard creams with your tea?

[Maeght]

It is - imagine you were a participant and the statement was:

“Ensuring equality for people regardless of their race is a positive advance for society”

I would give that my wholehearted support. I would feel pretty uncomfortable proving 'arguments against' that statement, but perhaps could - I would, however be unable, on principle, to provide any support whatsoever for any argument against. Yet if I did this, nail my colours to the mast of race equality which most people would conclude to be a cornerstone of tolerance, I would be indicated to be intolerant under this methodology.

It is bizarre.

Not sure about the use of the word tolerance eitheer. Just because you hold a strong position and can see no arguments for other positions does thst make you intolerant?

[Bubbles]

I have noticed that this thread became very rapidly unpopular .......snigger.

Yes, I noticed how noses were turned up, at the thought of reading the link 😂

No wonder some of the issues here are completely one sided 

They turn their nose up.

[Nearly Sane]

Yes, I noticed how noses were turned up, at the thought of reading the link 😂

No wonder some of the issues here are completely one sided 

They turn their nose up.

Or perhaps here, in Prof D's case provide an interesting analysis? Rather than a 'snigger'!

[Bubbles]

Or perhaps here, in Prof D's case provide an interesting analysis? Rather than a 'snigger'!

Yes he did, but no one else did 

[Nearly Sane]

Yes he did, but no one else did 

Which is not the sane as saying 'people turned up their noses the thought of reading the link' . Did everyone else do that?

[Gordon]

Yes he did, but no one else did 

He did a good job too; a critique sufficient to treat this paper with caution to extent of not taking it seriously (for the reasons outlined by Prof D).

[ProfessorDavey]

He did a good job too; a critique sufficient to treat this paper with caution to extent of not taking it seriously (for the reasons outlined by Prof D).

Frankly I am struggling to see how on earth you can work out whether people are tolerant or intolerant based on responses to the following three statements:

“Child adoption by homosexual couples is a positive advance for society”
“The meaning of life is something entirely personal”
“In a house, rooms must be painted with light colors”

[Bubbles]

Which is not the sane as saying 'people turned up their noses the thought of reading the link' . Did everyone else do that?

Yes read the posts.

Turning up their noses is an expression btw, not literal......

[Bubbles]

Frankly I am struggling to see how on earth you can work out whether people are tolerant or intolerant based on responses to the following three statements:

“Child adoption by homosexual couples is a positive advance for society”
“The meaning of life is something entirely personal”
“In a house, rooms must be painted with light colors”

No especially the last one.

Lol

[Nearly Sane]

Yes read the posts.

Turning up their noses is an expression btw, not literal......

So did everyone else do that metaphorically?

[Bubbles]

So did everyone else do that metaphorically?

Look for yourself!

[Nearly Sane]

Look for yourself!

Your burden of proof.

[Enki]

Yes, I noticed how noses were turned up, at the thought of reading the link 😂

No wonder some of the issues here are completely one sided 

They turn their nose up.

I certainly hope you aren't including me in those who 'turned up' their noses at the thought of reading the link, because that would be untrue. I read the whole of it, and then did a little research, which uncovered another link, which I duly brought to your attention(Post 20). I'm sure, in the interests of critical fairness, you also read my link, which included comments and thoughts from one of the authors of the study, Filip Uzarevic.

Incidentally, I also was impressed by Prof Davey's account, which I thought was thoughtful and well balanced.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

If you want evidence that atheists are open minded and free thinking ....avoid Religionethics forum
... Snork.

[Sebastian Toe]

If you want evidence that atheists are open minded and free thinking ....avoid Religionethics forum
... Snork.

There is one poster on here who has shown an interest in leaving on several occasions. But he never really has the courage of his convictions to follow it though, indefinitely.

[Shaker]

There is one poster on here who has shown an interest in leaving on several occasions. But he never really has the courage of his convictions to follow it though, indefinitely.

... and another is in mid-flounce as I write.

[Aruntraveller]

... and another is in mid-flounce as I write.

Awww. I wouldnt ctiticise too much. A flounce every now and then does no harm and is perhaps even necessary for some posters. Cathartic even.

[ProfessorDavey]

If you want evidence that atheists are open minded and free thinking ....avoid Religionethics forum
... Snork.

I think this forum is a haven of open mindedness and tolerance.

Look we even tolerate the non-sense you come out with Vlad - and your constant and irritating name changes.

[ProfessorDavey]

... Snork.

Wasn't he one of the BananaSplits? Is that going to be your next name change Vlad?

[Aruntraveller]

Wasn't he one of the BananaSplits? Is that going to be your next name change Vlad?

Iirc that was a word the much-missed (by me at least) johnny canoe used to employ. No originality. Just appropriation.