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Rhiannon

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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2017, 04:40:53 PM »
Oooh.

Peter Owen Jones. Yes.
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2017, 04:41:05 PM »
Quote from: Dicky Underpants on July 12, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Not to mention his 5th Symphony, partly inspired by the same.
Read my mind again ...  ;)
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2017, 04:42:14 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on July 12, 2017, 04:40:53 PM
Oooh.

Peter Owen Jones. Yes.
Ah - how could I have forgotten. (Though - maybe it's just me - he does seem to dip a toe into pantheism at times ...).
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2017, 04:42:30 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on July 12, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
Absolutely. His autobiography, Leaving Alexandria, which I read recently, is one of the most delightful memoirs I've had the pleasure of reading.

My feelings exactly.
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Rhiannon

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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2017, 05:11:22 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on July 12, 2017, 04:42:14 PM
Ah - how could I have forgotten. (Though - maybe it's just me - he does seem to dip a toe into pantheism at times ...).

The man identifies as a Christian, then the man's Christian AFAIC.  :)
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2017, 05:27:14 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on July 12, 2017, 05:11:22 PM
The man identifies as a Christian, then the man's Christian AFAIC.  :)
*sniff* All right fancy britches  :D
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2017, 05:33:42 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on July 12, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
Absolutely. His autobiography, Leaving Alexandria, which I read recently, is one of the most delightful memoirs I've had the pleasure of reading.
Always sufficient motivation for anything, surely.


And very honest.
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2017, 08:05:31 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 12, 2017, 05:33:42 PM

And very honest.
Although I have heard of those who question his honesty in remaining in and climbing up the church hierarchy while in a state of unbelief.
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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2017, 08:09:19 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on July 12, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
Absolutely. His autobiography, Leaving Alexandria, which I read recently, is one of the most delightful memoirs I've had the pleasure of reading.
You would enjoy the bit where he does a Palpatine, gets into highest office and then stiffs the church in a way that gives succour to the New Atheists.
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2017, 08:12:17 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on July 12, 2017, 04:42:14 PM
Ah - how could I have forgotten. (Though - maybe it's just me - he does seem to dip a toe into pantheism at times ...).
Well they say even the hardest arsed atheist has dipped his toe in pantheism.
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2017, 08:13:04 PM »
Quote from: Questions to Christians on July 12, 2017, 08:12:17 PM
Well they say even the hardest arsed atheist has dipped his toe in pantheism.
I've never heard anyone say that.

Though that's true of practically everything you come out with.
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2017, 10:18:19 PM »
Quote from: Questions to Christians on July 12, 2017, 08:05:31 PM
Although I have heard of those who question his honesty in remaining in and climbing up the church hierarchy while in a state of unbelief.
So which bits about his doubts do you think he was lying about? 
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2017, 10:35:12 PM »
Quote from: Questions to Christians on July 12, 2017, 08:12:17 PM
Well they say even the hardest arsed atheist has dipped his toe in pantheism.
Do they? Who is they? Because I haven't met they?
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2017, 10:54:20 PM »
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Well they say even the hardest arsed atheist has dipped his toe in pantheism.

Not me. Don't even dip my toe in the North Sea. Don't trust it. Same goes for pantheism.
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Rhiannon

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« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2017, 11:53:10 PM »
Quote from: Questions to Christians on July 12, 2017, 08:12:17 PM
Well they say even the hardest arsed atheist has dipped his toe in pantheism.

And there we were having a really interesting chat about all the good that Christianity has to offer...
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2017, 08:37:50 AM »
You can always rely on Vlad to pull a polished turd out of his hat at any inappropriate moment.
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2017, 10:52:39 AM »
My favourite church at Kilpeck with its wonderful carvings http://www.sheelanagig.org/wordpress/kilpeck/
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2017, 01:39:31 PM »
Quote from: Bramble on July 13, 2017, 10:52:39 AM
My favourite church at Kilpeck with its wonderful carvings http://www.sheelanagig.org/wordpress/kilpeck/

We've got a small village church here, the wind organ outshines the church, it's capable of really doing justice to Widor's 5th.

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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2017, 03:24:42 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 12, 2017, 10:18:19 PM
So which bits about his doubts do you think he was lying about?
You what?
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2017, 03:33:18 PM »
Quote from: Questions to Christians on July 13, 2017, 03:24:42 PM
You what?
Which bits about Holloway's doubts do you think he was lying about and when?
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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2017, 04:11:44 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 13, 2017, 03:33:18 PM
Which bits about Holloway's doubts do you think he was lying about and when?
No, still not getting it.
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2017, 04:16:24 PM »
Quote from: Questions to Christians on July 13, 2017, 04:11:44 PM
No, still not getting it.
no idea how I can make it clearer. So sorry, your incomprehension has stopped this part is the discussion.
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2017, 11:54:18 PM »
HOPE & TRUTH. to mention two good things about Christianityl
But it is optional in that we as individual's decide what we accept as truth.

We also decide what is good and bad.

But, I wonder why people are named rather than things about Christianity itself?

Christ is the real reason we have what people refer to as Christianity.

But the truth is Christians are Jews because the Church has not split but is a continuation of the promises of God to mankind.

So if we are to discuss what is good about Christianity then Christ and God have to be the central figures for this and of course the power of Gods Spirit in mankind.

Does anyone feel able to discuss the reality of good in Christ?
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2017, 01:32:10 AM »
Quote from: Sassy on July 16, 2017, 11:54:18 PM
HOPE & TRUTH. to mention two good things about Christianityl
But it is optional in that we as individual's decide what we accept as truth.

We also decide what is good and bad.

But, I wonder why people are named rather than things about Christianity itself?

Christ is the real reason we have what people refer to as Christianity.

But the truth is Christians are Jews because the Church has not split but is a continuation of the promises of God to mankind.

So if we are to discuss what is good about Christianity then Christ and God have to be the central figures for this and of course the power of Gods Spirit in mankind.

Does anyone feel able to discuss the reality of good in Christ?

This thread is about real things not flights of unproven fantasy like Jesus Christ and the God of the Christians for neither of which is there one iota of proof - hence they are MATTERS OF FAITH NOT FACT" - when are you going to get that through your skull and into your head!
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Re: What's good about Christianity?
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2017, 08:56:54 AM »
As far as Christian authors go, leaving aside specific theology stuff, I'd go for Corrie Ten Boom's autobiography trilogy. And I can't get past Adrian Plass, coming to the faith through various struggles with mental health and careeer, able to bring me to tears of laughter and tears of empathy in the same chapter. His (slightly) tounge-in-cheek "Sacred Diary" series is a well thumbed source of joy - and theology when you're not looking for it. He manages to show a mirror to the church, and show where we are really getting it wrong. One of my many favourite quotes of his is "Why do I follow Jesus?" "Because He's not as straight laced, boring and judgemental as some who clain to know Him."
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