Author Topic: Women are evil... (Read 4189 times)

Nearly Sane · « **on:** July 13, 2017, 04:56:20 PM »

Not a tittle changed

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+12%3A1-5&version=NIV

Gordon · « **Reply #1 on:** July 13, 2017, 05:00:39 PM »

Reads like primitive pish to me.

Rhiannon · « **Reply #2 on:** July 13, 2017, 05:16:16 PM »

Bless. You have to remember that the writers were very, very scared of the power of childbirth.

Nobody thinks like that now, obviously.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #3 on:** July 13, 2017, 05:23:00 PM »

Obviously. Except for the supporters of the govt.

Gordon · « **Reply #4 on:** July 13, 2017, 05:25:42 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 13, 2017, 05:23:00 PM

Obviously. Except for the supporters of the govt.

Of course - Im assuming DUP, and I'm going to NI next week!

floo · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2017, 05:36:31 PM »

It is ghastly how that book has been used to vilify women over the centuries and try to make them subservient to the male of the species! Even in the 21st centuries there are still extremists who think woman should kowtow to their menfolk!

trippymonkey · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2017, 05:42:35 PM »

The Bible ?!?!!?
Have none of you ever looked at - read - a Quran. ?!!?!?!? Horrendous is NOT the word !!!!
Misogynistic - homophobic - hatred of ALL non-Islamic things & people ?!!!?

If you ever do then you'll have NO problems understanding brain-washed Muslims 'dying for the cause' !!! IE suicide excursions !!!

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floo · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2017, 05:45:14 PM »

Is there any religion which has treated women as equal to men?

trippymonkey · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2017, 05:47:41 PM »

When you have a religion where God is MALE.......

Hinduism, with its Gods & Goddesses seems to enjoy stories of Goddesses kicking certain parts of over-zealous Gods as being very amusing !!!
Knowing women are better at doing certain things better than males helps too.

floo · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2017, 06:26:18 PM »

Quote from: trippymonkey on July 13, 2017, 05:47:41 PM

When you have a religion where God is MALE.......

Hinduism, with its Gods & Goddesses seems to enjoy stories of Goddesses kicking certain parts of over-zealous Gods as being very amusing !!!
Knowing women are better at doing certain things better than males helps too.

http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_women.asp

According to this link women are expected to be subservient to the male in Hinduism.

Shaker · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2017, 06:46:53 PM »

Quote from: Floo on July 13, 2017, 05:45:14 PM

Is there any religion which has treated women as equal to men?

Paganism is pretty good in this regard.

Rhiannon · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2017, 07:04:54 PM »

You might be interested in this, Floo. Anglo-Saxon women (not long converted from paganism) enjoyed more rights than others did right up to the Victorian age.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Anglo-Saxon_society

In Celtic society there is evidence that men and women held equal rank, something that got taken from their pagan societies and into their Christianity. They also had mixed gender monastic houses where couples could raise families. This was only eradicated after the Synod of Whitby when it was agreed that the British church would obey Rome and take on its customs.

This piece by Peter Beresford Ellis (aka Peter Tremayne) is quite good.

http://www.sisterfidelma.com/fidelma.html

There's much about our pagan past that we don't know, but it is certainly true that neopaganism treats men and women as completely equal, although there are individual movements for both women and men should people wish to explore them. Part of the reasoning for this is that some need a safe space in which to express themselves and find healing.

Robbie · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2017, 03:56:41 AM »

Just wanted to put this out, Orthodox Jewish women do not think it means women are 'evil': seems 'odd' to us of course (men are also considered ritually unclean sometimes and have mikvah)-
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/1541/jewish/The-Mikvah.htm
See you in couple of weeks, off on holiday (frantically packindg).

SteveH · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2017, 06:15:58 AM »

Quote from: Shaker on July 13, 2017, 06:46:53 PM

Paganism is pretty good in this regard.

Neo-paganism, maybe. I doubt that the real thing, millennia ago, was.

Owlswing · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2017, 06:39:51 AM »

Quote from: Floo on July 13, 2017, 05:45:14 PM

Is there any religion which has treated women as equal to men?

Paganism

SteveH · « **Reply #15 on:** August 10, 2017, 08:04:48 AM »

Quote from: Owlswing on August 10, 2017, 06:39:51 AM

Paganism

Do you read earlier posts before posting? See immediately above yours!

Rhiannon · « **Reply #16 on:** August 10, 2017, 08:10:14 AM »

Quote from: SteveH on August 10, 2017, 08:04:48 AM

Do you read earlier posts before posting? See immediately above yours!

From what we know of Celtic and Saxon paganism they certainly seemed to have had a better crack at equality than their Romanised Christian counterparts.

jeremyp · « **Reply #17 on:** August 10, 2017, 07:51:19 PM »

Quote from: SteveH on August 10, 2017, 06:15:58 AM

Neo-paganism, maybe. I doubt that the real thing, millennia ago, was.

Paganism wasn't a thing in ancient times. It was a catch all term for "religions that are not Christianity". The paganisms of Pagan Rome were probably very different from the paganisms in pre-Roman Britain.

Rhiannon · « **Reply #18 on:** August 10, 2017, 08:07:23 PM »

It's not really a thing now. Neopaganism/paganism is just an umbrella term that covers everything from Wicca to Asatru to Druidry to hedgewitchery to Shamanism to whatever it is that I do and a whole load of other stuff besides.

Owlswing · « **Reply #19 on:** August 10, 2017, 09:59:35 PM »

Quote from: SteveH on August 10, 2017, 08:04:48 AM

Do you read earlier posts before posting? See immediately above yours!

Yes, I do read them - however I am not living in a pre-Christian world and I do not follow a pre-Christian Pagan path and on the path I do follow, a Coven-based path (I am also a hedge-witch when working outside the Coven), the bloke in charge is the High Priestess and her word is law and is obeyed without question or hesitation. All other women in a coven are equals in all respects to the males.

Have you never heard of Boudicca?

A question for you Stevey-boy, just what do you know about paganism and did you learn it from the same bloke who taught Sassy?

trippymonkey · « **Reply #20 on:** August 10, 2017, 10:01:25 PM »

BLOKE in charge

You're not one of those who calls women, either alone or with men, a GUY, are you

Owlswing · « **Reply #21 on:** August 10, 2017, 10:03:46 PM »

Quote from: trippymonkey on August 10, 2017, 10:01:25 PM

BLOKE in charge
You're not one of those who calls women, either alone or with men, a GUY, are you

No, I was being sarcy!

trippymonkey · « **Reply #22 on:** August 10, 2017, 10:18:57 PM »

MMM

Saucy or sarky ?!!!? LOL

Robbie · « **Reply #23 on:** August 11, 2017, 02:15:30 AM »

Quote from: Floo on July 13, 2017, 05:45:14 PM

Is there any religion which has treated women as equal to men?

Zoroastrianism
Society of Friends

May not have always quite worked out in practice, they lived & worked in wider misogynistic societies but the ethos is there.

Robbie · « **Reply #24 on:** August 11, 2017, 02:16:48 AM »

Quote from: trippymonkey on August 10, 2017, 10:18:57 PM

MMM
Saucy or sarky ?!!!? LOL

Whichever, undoubtedly secksy

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