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Spud

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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #375 on: August 03, 2017, 01:35:39 PM »
I've read it, yes, but don't see that it takes anything away from my point.
Ok.
Your point in 367 is a hypothesis,  and a valid one.

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« Reply #376 on: August 03, 2017, 01:38:39 PM »
"It's true because somebody absolutely insists that it is" - is this really the level that some people are reduced to?
I referred him to this verse because it supports the idea that the witness wasn't mistaken or embellishing the details, even though it isn't enough to prove it.
Looking at the statement again, the author isn't saying that you have to believe it, but that you may believe it.
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« Reply #377 on: August 03, 2017, 01:40:23 PM »
I referred him to this verse because it supports the idea that the witness wasn't mistaken or embellishing the details. It doesn't prove that though.
Looking at the statement again, the author isn't saying that you have to believe it, but that you may believe it.

I may believe there are fairies hiding in my garden!

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« Reply #378 on: August 03, 2017, 01:56:58 PM »
Ok.
Your point in 367 is a hypothesis,  and a valid one.

Ta

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« Reply #379 on: August 03, 2017, 01:57:18 PM »
I referred him to this verse because it supports the idea that the witness wasn't mistaken or embellishing the details
Er no, it really doesn't support any such thing.

You want it to.

You really want it to.

You really, really want it to.

You would like it to.

But for those of us in the reality-based community, it doesn't.
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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #380 on: August 03, 2017, 05:30:11 PM »
Er no, it really doesn't support any such thing.

You want it to.

You really want it to.

You really, really want it to.

You would like it to.

But for those of us in the reality-based community, it doesn't.
Is your keyboard jammed by any chance?

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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #381 on: August 03, 2017, 05:34:59 PM »
Is your keyboard jammed by any chance?

I suspect it is more the case that your thinking is jammed, Spud

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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #382 on: August 04, 2017, 07:51:06 AM »
I may believe there are fairies hiding in my garden!
Not unless someone has seen them  ;)

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« Reply #383 on: August 04, 2017, 08:24:20 AM »
Not unless someone has seen them  ;)

Some people believe they have actually seen fairies.

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« Reply #384 on: August 09, 2017, 12:08:45 AM »
"It's true because somebody absolutely insists that it is" - is this really the level that some people are reduced to?
It is true because people have come to know God by Jesus being who he says he is and everyone following what he has taught.
As you have not done these things, you are not in a position to understand the LEVELS OF FAITH.
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« Reply #385 on: August 09, 2017, 12:10:35 AM »
I may believe there are fairies hiding in my garden!


That is totally untrue. Even Christians do not believe fairies exist anywhere.

So why make such false statements it does not add any weight to any argument for or against faith in God.
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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #386 on: August 09, 2017, 07:08:10 AM »
What on earth have you been drinking ?!?!!?!?!?

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« Reply #387 on: August 09, 2017, 09:01:21 AM »

That is totally untrue. Even Christians do not believe fairies exist anywhere.

So why make such false statements it does not add any weight to any argument for or against faith in God.

Some people do actually believe they exist.

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« Reply #388 on: August 09, 2017, 09:21:03 AM »

It is true because people have come to know God by Jesus being who he says he is and everyone following what he has taught.
As you have not done these things, you are not in a position to understand the LEVELS OF FAITH.


That is all it is, Sassy, as I have been saying for ages - ALL religions (including my own) are matters of FAITH NOT FACT - including yours!

You are just too blind, too brainwashed, too arrogant, or just too plain stupid to see it.
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

An it harm none, do what you will; an it harm some, do what you must!

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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #389 on: August 09, 2017, 03:48:01 PM »
Agreed !!!
There's only ONE time I wish to see God & that's not for a LONNNGGGGG time yet, eh ?!!?!?

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« Reply #390 on: August 09, 2017, 05:03:45 PM »
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It is true because people have come to know God by Jesus being who he says he is and everyone following what he has taught.
As you have not done these things, you are not in a position to understand the LEVELS OF FAITH.

Thank goodness Sassy put that last bit in capitals. Otherwise thinking readers might have though that what preceded it was gibberish. 

Close call that.
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« Reply #391 on: August 09, 2017, 05:13:05 PM »
Thank goodness Sassy put that last bit in capitals. Otherwise thinking readers might have though that what preceded it was gibberish. 

Close call that.
They are playing the big festivals, you know.

THE LEVELS OF FAITH opening

Followed by THE PUMPS OF INIQUITY (as announced by Nicholas Marks)


And headlining

From the stables of Frankie, the one , the only, the greatest


THE HEXAGONS OF LIGHTNING

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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #392 on: August 09, 2017, 05:22:14 PM »
NS,

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They are playing the big festivals, you know.

THE LEVELS OF FAITH opening

Followed by THE PUMPS OF INIQUITY (as announced by Nicholas Marks)


And headlining

From the stables of Frankie, the one , the only, the greatest


THE HEXAGONS OF LIGHTNING

No doubt Jeremy Corbyn will make an appearance too then...
"Don't make me come down there."

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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #393 on: August 09, 2017, 05:24:43 PM »
NS,

No doubt Jeremy Corbyn will make an appearance too then...


Not sure he gets to thus one. Rather like the proposed Tory Glastonbury, where they do ooh Theresa May,  think this one has Ooh Jesus Christ to the Seven Nation Army tune.

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« Reply #394 on: August 09, 2017, 06:03:33 PM »

That is totally untrue. Even Christians do not believe fairies exist anywhere.

You speak for yourselr sass. ;)
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« Reply #395 on: August 09, 2017, 07:36:26 PM »

You speak for yourselr sass. ;)


As far as most non-Christians on this forum - me being one - are concerned that is all Sassy ever does and, until she can admit that her entire religion has no basis in fact, that is the way it will stay!
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

An it harm none, do what you will; an it harm some, do what you must!

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« Reply #396 on: August 09, 2017, 08:33:36 PM »
Owls,

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As far as most non-Christians on this forum - me being one - are concerned that is all Sassy ever does and, until she can admit that her entire religion has no basis in fact, that is the way it will stay!

Yes, but have you not noticed that she uses CAPITAL LETTERS? So that must make her really bad attempts at arguments into really good ones then mustn't it?

MUSTN'T IT?
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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #397 on: August 10, 2017, 06:36:04 AM »
Owls,

Yes, but have you not noticed that she uses CAPITAL LETTERS? So that must make her really bad attempts at arguments into really good ones then mustn't it?

MUSTN'T IT?

MAYBE! POSSIBLY!

Unless it is a cut-and-paste from the Bible!
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

An it harm none, do what you will; an it harm some, do what you must!

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« Reply #398 on: August 29, 2017, 02:11:39 AM »
That is all it is, Sassy, as I have been saying for ages - ALL religions (including my own) are matters of FAITH NOT FACT - including yours!

You are just too blind, too brainwashed, too arrogant, or just too plain stupid to see it.

Let us test that... Do you want to know if God exists?

King James Bible
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.


Let us be honest... You don't care if God exists and have never sought him.
If you had then you would have found him, if you had searched with all your heart.
Don't assume that all belief is like your own, just your own choice.
Some of us seek God and we sought with all our heart and found him.

You can call me what you want but the truth is that you CHOOSE to be Blind and you CHOOSE  to Brainwash yourself and are too
arrogant and ignorant to make an informed decision based on TRUTH.

You see/ believe what you write in blind ignorance chosen by yourself to disbelieve.
Some of us seek Truth and therefore want to know if God existed. Don't reflect your own ignorance onto others.
We also choose to know the TRUTH not search for truth to fit in what we want to believe.

Let me tell you this... If you ever chose to find the truth about the existence of God from a heart which was sincere and looking for God you would find him. The fact is you cannot disprove that because you would first have to seek him, his way.

I know this to be a fact you will never be able to disprove it, because in trying to do so you would find yourself proving me right.
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Re: Quoting Jesus
« Reply #399 on: August 29, 2017, 02:13:31 AM »
Thank goodness Sassy put that last bit in capitals. Otherwise thinking readers might have though that what preceded it was gibberish. 

Close call that.

And you Bluehillside,

Do you believe you really have answers of your own not taken from the writings and beliefs of other men?

Maybe, you should refrain from comment till you can actually speak from personal experience.

We know we have to work together to abolish war and terrorism to create a compassionate  world in which Justice and peace prevail. Love ;D   Einstein
 "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."