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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2017, 12:30:49 PM »
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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2017, 12:35:18 PM »
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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2017, 05:28:32 PM »
This is all in bad taste!  :o
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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2017, 07:54:38 PM »
..... Many psychological and lifestyle factors are responsible for such changes besides the usual suspects...

Hi Sriram, if a dominant mother can 'castrate' her son then who knows if the sperm count of said son can also be affected.
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2017, 08:43:03 PM »
It's a problem, all these dominant women all over the West.

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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2017, 08:54:31 PM »
It's a problem, all these dominant women all over the West.

You think I'm being sarcastic? I know two men that sadly this happen to. A dominant mother in some cases can cause her son to become impotent. I'm not talking about a woman that takes charge a little, but rather the dominant over-bearing type.
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« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2017, 08:58:25 PM »
You think I'm being sarcastic? I know two men that sadly this happen to. A dominant mother in some cases can cause her son to become impotent. I'm not talking about a woman that takes charge a little, but rather the dominant over-bearing type.

There are dominant and abusive mothers, wives, partners. The notion however that the West is overrun with such women is risible.

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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2017, 09:01:02 PM »
There are dominant and abusive mothers, wives, partners. The notion however that the West is overrun with such women is risible.

Who said that?
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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2017, 09:04:18 PM »
Who said that?

If you are offering it to Sriram as an explanation for the figures he quoted then you are. Otherwise the fact that there are domineering and abusive women out there is irrelevant to the discussion.

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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2017, 09:07:29 PM »
No, it's not. Sriram mentioned psychological factors and that's exactly what I'm referring to. 
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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2017, 09:24:05 PM »
You think I'm being sarcastic?
Not so much sarcastic, more ridiculous.

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I know two men that sadly this happen to. A dominant mother in some cases can cause her son to become impotent. I'm not talking about a woman that takes charge a little, but rather the dominant over-bearing type.
And your evidence for this absurd eyewash is ... what?
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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2017, 09:31:10 PM »
No, it's not. Sriram mentioned psychological factors and that's exactly what I'm referring to.

So there are enough of these emasculating women domineering the Western male to cause such a drop in sperm count?

Or is it more likely to be down to the well-documented effects of chemicals and hormones in our diets and environment? Or are you suggesting that the drop in sperm count observed in fish is also down to domineering mothers?

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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2017, 09:36:13 PM »
So there are enough of these emasculating women domineering the Western male to cause such a drop in sperm count?

Or is it more likely to be down to the well-documented effects of chemicals and hormones in our diets and environment? Or are you suggesting that the drop in sperm count observed in fish is also down to domineering mothers?
Probably due to some overbearing old fishwife.
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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2017, 09:39:33 PM »
Probably due to some overbearing old fishwife.

Ffs.

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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2017, 09:44:46 PM »
Well I liked it.
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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2017, 05:44:49 AM »
Hi Sriram, if a dominant mother can 'castrate' her son then who knows if the sperm count of said son can also be affected.


Hi SweetPea,

I don't know about the cases you mention. Maybe it can happen.

I was referring to psychological and social factors that affect our lifestyle. These could change our mental make up and could lead to many psychosomatic issues and even changes in our gene expression through epigenetic mechanisms.  I have already mentioned in another thread about 43% of young people in Japan being virgins due to inability to interact with the opposite sex.  Life style and social issues can change our personality itself.

When I referred to 'dominance', I was not referring to 'aggression' as some people here seem to have assumed. Most men in the world have hitherto been dominant without necessarily being aggressive. 

Dominance is linked to the ego. The Ego is linked to libido, testosterone and even sperm production.  A consistent pressure on the male ego, forcing it to submission, could result in a drop in libido and even sperm production.   

If no research has been done on this, it needs to be done.

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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2017, 06:51:59 AM »
Three coulds and one maybe.

Pretty well sums it up, really.
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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2017, 07:35:40 AM »
Three coulds and one maybe.

Pretty well sums it up, really.

I was half asleep when I read that and wondered what the point was that you were making about the three cuddles.

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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2017, 08:12:26 AM »
Men and woman should treat each other as equals, neither sex trying to dominate the other.

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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2017, 08:35:27 AM »
Men and woman should treat each other as equals, neither sex trying to dominate the other.


This is not about treating each other as equals or about respecting one another.  That has not been under question.

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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2017, 11:28:18 AM »
You think I'm being sarcastic? I know two men that sadly this happen to. A dominant mother in some cases can cause her son to become impotent. I'm not talking about a woman that takes charge a little, but rather the dominant over-bearing type.

I think it is quite possible that your scenario may induce impotence in a few individuals, however this is a world away from the reduction in sperm count that the article refers to, and which is the subject of this thread. What is your evidence that dominant mothers can lead to a reduction in sperm count as well as impotence problems?
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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2017, 11:41:09 AM »
What is your evidence that dominant mothers can lead to a reduction in sperm count as well as impotence problems?
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« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2017, 11:57:17 AM »

This is not about treating each other as equals or about respecting one another.  That has not been under question.

Equal but different, right?

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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2017, 08:14:59 PM »
Countdown clock still ticking ...
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Re: Sperm Count
« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2017, 10:13:29 PM »
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Ah.... some people have a life, Shaker;) My day finished an hour ago.

I think it is quite possible that your scenario may induce impotence in a few individuals, however this is a world away from the reduction in sperm count that the article refers to, and which is the subject of this thread. What is your evidence that dominant mothers can lead to a reduction in sperm count as well as impotence problems?

enki.... I don't have any evidence. If you read my original comment #28 I said who is to know if the impotence would have any connection to the sperm count. As Sriram says, more research needs to be done.

So there are enough of these emasculating women domineering the Western male to cause such a drop in sperm count?

Or is it more likely to be down to the well-documented effects of chemicals and hormones in our diets and environment? Or are you suggesting that the drop in sperm count observed in fish is also down to domineering mothers?

Rhiannon.... I agree with all the above already known factors. I am just wondering if my added theory could also be a factor. Who knows....
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