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Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« on: July 27, 2017, 06:00:47 AM »
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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2017, 08:30:41 AM »
That is awful! >:(

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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2017, 03:03:39 PM »
Why?

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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2017, 03:07:03 PM »
The proximate cause, as ever with any kind of bigotry, is of course sheer stupidity. And fear of difference, of the other, obviously.

The ultimate cause - well, a great many people would like to know that. Poorly disguised anti-Semitism hiding behind concern-trolling criticism supposedly of "Israel, but not Jews" is certainly one factor amongst many in my view. A drip-drip effect of anti-Semitic propaganda such as you can find on forums such as this one is another.
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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2017, 06:04:08 PM »
The proximate cause, as ever with any kind of bigotry, is of course sheer stupidity. And fear of difference, of the other, obviously.

The ultimate cause - well, a great many people would like to know that. Poorly disguised anti-Semitism hiding behind concern-trolling criticism supposedly of "Israel, but not Jews" is certainly one factor amongst many in my view. A drip-drip effect of anti-Semitic propaganda such as you can find on forums such as this one is another.

So, no criticism of Israel in fear of being labelled anti-semitic. That really does give the IDF a free hand.
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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 06:22:29 PM »
Israel should be criticised when its actions are wrong, but it is wrong to blame all Jews for Israel's bad behaviour.

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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 07:49:20 PM »
So, no criticism of Israel in fear of being labelled anti-semitic. That really does give the IDF a free hand.
I've never known you to criticise Israel's actions politically, as a state; your anti-Semitism (along with that of Sweet Pea, the forum's other resident anti-Semite) has always been far too open and undisguised for that.
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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2017, 02:06:49 PM »
If Jewish people are sending funds to support illegal settlements they could feel intimidated when criticised or abused for it. But it would be wrong to generalise about all Jews. Many Jews are highly critical of The IDF.-
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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2017, 03:39:27 PM »
Many orthodox Jews do not even support zionism.
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2017, 03:41:54 PM »
The Zionists were a terrorist group back in the day.

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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 03:50:05 PM »
The Zionists were a terrorist group back in the day.
I think you might mean Haganah or Irgun?

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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 05:12:57 PM »
I think you might mean Haganah or Irgun?

Never heard of them?

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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2017, 10:01:51 PM »
I've never known you to criticise Israel's actions politically, as a state; your anti-Semitism (along with that of Sweet Pea, the forum's other resident anti-Semite) has always been far too open and undisguised for that.

??.... smh. You, Shaker cannot tell a Jew from a Zionist. I am not anti-Jew. The Jews of the Torah understand my position.

If Jewish people are sending funds to support illegal settlements they could feel intimidated when criticised or abused for it. But it would be wrong to generalise about all Jews. Many Jews are highly critical of The IDF.-
Agreed

Many orthodox Jews do not even support zionism.
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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2017, 10:26:48 PM »
The Zionists were a terrorist group back in the day.



Actually, the original Zionists - the word was coined in the nineteenth century - were no such thing.
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Re: Anti-Semitic incidents "at record levels"
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2017, 12:09:09 AM »
You're right there Anchorman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Zionism

Anti-semitism (anti-Jewish) has never gone away & it's no surprise to me to read that it has risen in recent years. Any Jew will tell you of subtle, carefully worded sentences and prejudicial attitudes from many non-Jews. I've seen & heard it, you don't have to be especially tuned in to notice.

It's a terrible shame and I will never understand it.

All we can do when we come across such prejudice is address & try to counter it. Jews are no threat to any of us (even Rothschilds  ::),so why are some afraid (prejudice is fear & ignorance)?
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