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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2017, 10:16:57 AM »
Yes. I agree with that, Rhiannon, and that this foes embolden the extremist part of his support. I think it's a point that nerds to be directly made by those in the Republican party who might stand against him. He pulled them to this position, they have to have the guts to call it out.

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2017, 10:35:36 AM »

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2017, 10:43:20 AM »
U.S. War Department film 1943

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k0971Hy5eo

Trump election campaign was music to the ears of prejudiced Americans,  just like Brexit fed the prejudices of the British!

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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2017, 03:16:16 PM »
Trump election campaign was music to the ears of prejudiced Americans,  just like Brexit fed the prejudices of the British!
We are all prejudiced in some way. Thinking tgat the majority of Trump voters are extremists is just another piece of othering.

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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2017, 03:21:33 PM »
We are all prejudiced in some way. Thinking tgat the majority of Trump voters are extremists is just another piece of othering.

You have to be pretty extreme, or very naïve to have voted for Trump, imo.

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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2017, 03:27:57 PM »
You have to be pretty extreme, or very naïve to have voted for Trump, imo.
thank you for illustrating the point.

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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2017, 03:37:25 PM »
thank you for illustrating the point.

What point?

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Re: Charlottesville
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2017, 09:39:10 PM »
« Last Edit: August 16, 2017, 10:29:36 AM by Nearly Sane »


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Re: Charlottesville
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2017, 09:15:50 AM »
Interesting piece by  Laurie Penny. Not sure how much I agree with it. I think there is an element of Pascal's wager here, and a false dichotomy in the king that someone couldn't support a system but oppose elements of it.



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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2017, 11:34:40 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2017, 11:38:22 AM »
You have to be pretty extreme, or very naïve to have voted for Trump, imo.
Just checked Trump's approval rating on fivethirtyeight.com. It's still at 37.6%. Do you think more than a third of Americans are extreme or naive?
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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2017, 11:40:00 AM »
Just checked Trump's approval rating on fivethirtyeight.com. It's still at 37.6%. Do you think more than a third of Americans are extreme or naive?
And were there a vote he's likely to get more than that because while not approved of, he will be some people's least worst option.

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Re: Charlottesville
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2017, 12:25:15 PM »

To be fair to May that reads as if she is saying Trump is wrong. Have to say that Sajid Javid has gone up in my estimation for that tweet


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-donald-trump-refuse-charlottesville-neo-nazi-violence-us-president-uk-prime-minister-a7896036.html

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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2017, 01:03:44 PM »
The BBC are less selective in their quoting of May.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40948414

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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2017, 01:18:13 PM »
Yes, I think there is nothing wrong in May avoiding personalising this to be about Trump.

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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2017, 01:21:13 PM »
It's pretty obvious what she is meaning here. The Indy headline is a lie.

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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2017, 03:04:34 PM »
I would agree that May is quite forthright here. No equivocation in her statement.  Refreshing for her.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2017, 03:09:18 PM »
I would agree that May is quite forthright here. No equivocation in her statement.  Refreshing for her.
Agreed, she doesn't have to say Trump's wrong here. It is all in what she says.

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« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2017, 03:11:46 PM »
I really dislike the Indy's handling of this. I hate having untrustworthy news outlets and the Indy used to be so respected.

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« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2017, 03:16:18 PM »
I really dislike the Indy's handling of this. I hate having untrustworthy news outlets and the Indy used to be so respected.
It's a rag now. Mostly I see articles when one of friends has posted a comment saying it's nonsense.

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« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2017, 03:17:06 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2017, 03:17:56 PM »
It's a rag now. Mostly I see articles when one of friends has posted a comment saying it's nonsense.

And the website is useless. The only website that makes my PC freeze and jump about and generally misbehave.

(It's a sight to behold my PC jumping about the room)
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: Charlottesville
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2017, 03:19:36 PM »
And the website is useless. The only website that makes my PC freeze and jump about and generally misbehave.

(It's a sight to behold my PC jumping about the room)


And when it's a laptop it can cause serious injury

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« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2017, 03:21:37 PM »