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Walt Zingmatilder

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Rejoice and celebrate!!!
« on: August 22, 2017, 06:45:48 AM »
Case for heterosexual civil partnerships to go before Supreme Court.

Source:BBC news.

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Re: Rejoice and celebrate!!!
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2017, 07:01:17 AM »

See here. I hope it is successful but doubt it will be similar to the case in that tried to get gay marriage recognised in Northern Ireland, I suspect the judgeswill be loathe to effectively extend legislation in this way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41004378

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2017, 07:28:34 AM »
Case for heterosexual civil partnerships to go before Supreme Court.

Source:BBC news.
Good news - I hope it is successful.


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Re: Rejoice and celebrate!!!
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 09:06:26 AM »
I understand that some hetero people want to enter a civil partnership and not marry, but I'm not sure why. Could someone lay out the more common reasons for me ?

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2017, 09:08:39 AM »
I understand that some hetero people want to enter a civil partnership and not marry, but I'm not sure why. Could someone lay out the more common reasons for me ?

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Never mind. Googled it:

Legal and financial protection for both parties in the event of the relationship ending
It is free of the religious connotations of marriage
Some object to marriage as an institution and its associations with property and patriarchy
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2017, 09:13:21 AM »
Good news - I hope it is successful.

So do I.

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2017, 09:16:17 AM »
Heterosexual civil partnerships are legal on the IoM. They are popular with English couples.

I hope the law changes. If I were ever faced with the choice I'd opt for a CP over marriage any day.

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2017, 09:16:30 AM »
Never mind. Googled it:

Legal and financial protection for both parties in the event of the relationship ending
It is free of the religious connotations of marriage
Some object to marriage as an institution and its associations with property and patriarchy
The article says that some couples want to avoid the religious connotations of marriage, but in civil marriage (now accounting for at least two thirds of all marriages in the UK) there aren't any, by law. So I don't quite get that argument.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2017, 09:18:19 AM »
The article says that some couples want to avoid the religious connotations of marriage, but in civil marriage (now accounting for at least two thirds of all marriages in the UK) there aren't any, by law. So I don't quite get that argument.

I expect some couples face pressure to marry from religious family members. Otherwise, neither do I. Perhaps it's the vows or something?

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2017, 10:25:51 AM »
I expect some couples face pressure to marry from religious family members. Otherwise, neither do I. Perhaps it's the vows or something?
Is there a prepared script you have to follow? Can't you write your own?
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2017, 10:30:00 AM »
Is there a prepared script you have to follow? Can't you write your own?

Registry offices have a script. But vows are vows and taken in front of witnesses may feel a bit 'religious'. Maybe that has something to do with it? Dunno.

I like the idea of making promises on a hill top, letting the wind take them where they will. Not much help with pension and property rights though.


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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2017, 11:03:52 AM »
Registry offices have a script. But vows are vows and taken in front of witnesses may feel a bit 'religious'. Maybe that has something to do with it? Dunno.

I like the idea of making promises on a hill top, letting the wind take them where they will. Not much help with pension and property rights though.
Not in England and Wales at any rate.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 11:06:48 AM »
I once talked to a woman on a MB who lost her husband very suddenly on holiday in Portugal. She was told that had they not been married the authorities there would have insisted on dealing with his parents. No idea if that's law or tradition but there we are.

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2017, 07:21:07 AM »
Some on this thread seem to be suggesting that straights should just be happy with civil marriage.
Enemies of equality?

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2017, 07:23:26 AM »
Some on this thread seem to be suggesting that straights should just be happy with civil marriage.
Who and where?
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2017, 08:31:02 AM »
Some on this thread seem to be suggesting that straights should just be happy with civil marriage.
Enemies of equality?

You have an impressively vivid imagination.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2017, 08:37:59 AM »
Some on this thread seem to be suggesting that straights should just be happy with civil marriage.
Enemies of equality?

What are you talking about?

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Re: Rejoice and celebrate!!!
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2017, 08:49:23 AM »
What are you talking about?

He doesn't know.

Despite being told repeatedly by most posters on here that they agree with the idea of CP's for heterosexuals he still bangs on to try to prove it is some militant, secularist antitheist plot.

When it reality it is simply that the government can't be arsed to do anything about this as they don't see it as a priority.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2017, 12:42:09 PM »
It doesn't matter why any couple should want a particular kind of legal partnership; if it is available for some, it must be available to all.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2017, 01:07:55 PM »
Good news - I hope it is successful.

Agreed.
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2017, 01:57:18 AM »
Case for heterosexual civil partnerships to go before Supreme Court.

Source:BBC news.

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2017, 10:36:36 AM »

Why?


Come pn, Floo! You know why!

Because the Bible says you have to be married by a religious service in the face of God or you are living in mortal sin and if you think your mother-in-law is bad, wait 'til you get to Hell and find out what God has in store for your sinful arse.
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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2017, 10:43:06 AM »
Come pn, Floo! You know why!

Because the Bible says you have to be married by a religious service in the face of God or you are living in mortal sin and if you think your mother-in-law is bad, wait 'til you get to Hell and find out what God has in store for your sinful arse.

God didn't marry Mary it got her up the duff, when she was engaged to Joseph!

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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2017, 10:45:10 AM »
God didn't marry Mary it got her up the duff, when she was engaged to Joseph!

Oh such refinement in your posting  ;)
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