Catalonia independence vote

[Nearly Sane]

Bit of coded opinion here from Daniel Hannan, as regards Brexit, but good stuff

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/10/madrids-violent-tactics-will-only-push-catalans-towards-independence/

[Nearly Sane]

So Puigdemont steps back from a declaration. Good. Just need others to step up

[Nearly Sane]

But people locked up for sedition

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41646142

[Nearly Sane]

And now Catalan autonomy to be suspended. This is very worrying whatever your opinion on Catalan independence is
 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41678086

[floo]

And now Catalan autonomy to be suspended. This is very worrying whatever your opinion on Catalan independence is
 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41678086

I agree it is worrying, and something the EU could well do without at present.

[Nearly Sane]

I agree it is worrying, and something the EU could well do without at present.

They seem to be doing a very good job of doing nothing at the moment.


I find myself in agreement with a lot of Craig Murray's blog


https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/10/spain-operating-way-beyond-democratic-legitimacy/

[floo]

They seem to be doing a very good job of doing nothing at the moment.


I find myself in agreement with a lot of Craig Murray's blog


https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/10/spain-operating-way-beyond-democratic-legitimacy/

Spain is showing itself up in a very poor light.

If Scotland had voted for independence, however bad a decision I believe that would have been, I hope the Government in London wouldn't have behaved in the same way as Spain.

[Nearly Sane]

Getting indications that the meeting on Thursday will declare independence. Think this is a mistake despite the intransigence of the Spanish govt.

[Sebastian Toe]

Spain is showing itself up in a very poor light.

If Scotland had voted for independence, however bad a decision I believe that would have been, I hope the Government in London wouldn't have behaved in the same way as Spain.

They might not have behaved the same way but they would not likely have allowed the result to be binding if the circumstances were the same.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Bromley independent from Greater London.

Then Orpington independent from Bromley.

Sound good?

[Nearly Sane]

Bromley independent from Greater London.

Then Orpington independent from Bromley.

Sound good?

And your point is, caller?

[Humph Warden Bennett]

KENT not "London".

There are two places naned Bromley. One is in historic Kent, and to this day is still 40 % open countryside. The other is Bromley by Bow, in Larndarns historic East End.

There are two places named Moldova.

One is the north eastern province of Romania, I don't  like it very much,  there is something of a peasant & communist mentality.

The other is historic Basarabia, most of which is de jure the Former Soviet Republic of Moldova. Most real Moldovans consider the inhabitants of the same to be "white gypsies".

You understand now?

[Nearly Sane]

Not in the slightest.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Not in the slightest.

So you really have no idea that some people want their independence from an imposed authority?

[Nearly Sane]

So you really have no idea that some people want their independence from an imposed authority?

I've got no idea what this specifically has to do with Catalonia becoming/not becoming an independent country, or the actions of the Spanish govt, or the EU

[Humph Warden Bennett]

I've got no idea what this specifically has to do with Catalonia becoming/not becoming an independent country, or the actions of the Spanish govt, or the EU

I would have thought it very obvious. Independence for Bromley from the imposed Greater London, and from the imposed Greater London President (the so called "Mayor").

[Nearly Sane]

I would have thought it very obvious. Independence for Bromley from the imposed Greater London, and from the imposed Greater London President (the so called "Mayor").

which seems like a different thread to a discussion on what is going on in Catalonia.

[floo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
The Catalans have just declared independence from Spain

[Nearly Sane]

Well those in the Catalan parliament have voted, despite a boycott from many members, to do so.

[floo]

Well those in the Catalan parliament have voted, despite a boycott from many members, to do so.

I hope there is no more violence.

[Anchorman]

Every good wish for the new republic of Catalonia.

[wigginhall]

Yes, I wish them well, although I have no idea whether this is a truly historic moment, to rank alongside 1916, or something largely symbolic, or a tragic mistake.   I guess that Madrid will now be compelled to dissolve the Catalan parliament; after that, who knows.  Will Madrid use its troops?  Who will resist?  Seeing them sing the anthem in the parliament is quite stirring.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Maybe Spain'll be out of Europe before us. We could then form a new European alliance based on nostalgia for the Fifties.

[Harrowby Hall]

This sort of thing is catching. Here is a part of a letter to the editor of the Evesham Observer in response to news that traffic problems in the town will not be addressed:

The Doo Dah Party is a new political movement demanding equal lack of access to all and to this end we want a referendum to Evesham leaving the present system and becoming Independent. Evexit would see Evesham become a prosperous community in charge of its own destiny, financed partly by turning Abbey Bridge into a toll bridge for non residents.

We shall build a wall and Wychavon is paying. An Independent Evesham would join the Duchy of Cornwall to enjoy tax breaks and more income would be generated by whale watching trips on the Avon.

Looks serious to me.

[floo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41783238

The UK wont recognise Catalonian independence.