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Nearly Sane

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Food banks successful because Tory Govt publicity
« on: September 14, 2017, 05:28:36 PM »

I doubt J R-M meant this to read people know about food banks because the Tory govt said we hate you poor cunts but hey that's my reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41264965

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 06:41:12 PM »
I'd have a punt on him to be next PM immediately. Especially if he suggests a wall to keep the Poles out.

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2017, 07:02:36 PM »
What the twatting fuckety fuck is wrong with thede greasy cock wanking bastards.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 08:34:05 PM »
Far be it for me to tell the Pope what to do but he should excommunicate Rees-Mogg, the precedence being the fuck up the church made in supporting Franco.

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2017, 09:52:45 PM »
I'd have a punt on him to be next PM immediately. Especially if he suggests a wall to keep the Poles out.

Ah but he'll need Poles to build the wall!
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Re: Food banks successful because Tory Govt publicity
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2017, 04:52:43 AM »
I doubt J R-M meant this to read people know about food banks because the Tory govt said we hate you poor cunts but hey that's my reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41264965

I think that he is enjoying himself whilst playing to the gallery.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2017, 06:42:54 AM »
Appeals to the "burn a tenner in front of a homeless person contingent".

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 07:00:27 AM »
Far be it for me to tell the Pope what to do but he should excommunicate Rees-Mogg, the precedence being the fuck up the church made in supporting Franco.
"From me", not "for me"; "precedent", not "precedence"; "fuck-up", not "fuck up"; and a precedent is something similar that happened earlier, so the church's failure to deal with Franco is not a precedent. If the church had excommunicated Franco, that would be a precedent.
When conspiracy nuts start spouting their bollocks, the best answer is "That's what they want you to think".

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 10:11:21 AM »
I doubt J R-M meant this to read people know about food banks because the Tory govt said we hate you poor cunts but hey that's my reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41264965
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 10:30:07 AM »
I doubt J R-M meant this to read people know about food banks because the Tory govt said we hate you poor cunts but hey that's my reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41264965
The good news is that the last couple of weeks have outed JRM as a deeply objectionable man. I think previously there was a perception that he bizarre toff bastard child of Walter from Dennis the Menace and Lord Snooty, but somehow harmless. He is no such thing - he is a deeply reactionary right-wing extremist, but one who is establishment to the core and therefore will have friends and influence in very high places.

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 10:46:54 AM »
He was on a question time and managed to tickle the fancy of a group of thick set men all with shaven heads and right of centre opinions. Whether they are following him as a fan base or whether he 'grabbed' them that night the implications struck me as sinister.

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2017, 01:09:57 PM »
God knows, I'm not in the habit of defending Tories, least of all Jacob Rees-Smug, but what he actually said about food banks, if you read his words, is not particularly objectionable.
When conspiracy nuts start spouting their bollocks, the best answer is "That's what they want you to think".

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2017, 01:15:45 PM »
God knows, I'm not in the habit of defending Tories, least of all Jacob Rees-Smug, but what he actually said about food banks, if you read his words, is not particularly objectionable.
Having already 'read his words' as you so kindly suggest, when I  posted the OP, I disagree.

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2017, 01:29:04 PM »
Having already 'read his words' as you so kindly suggest, when I  posted the OP, I disagree.
I was speaking generally, not specifically addressing you, so your sarcastic tone is uncalled-for. Btaim, perhaps you could explain why you disagree.
When conspiracy nuts start spouting their bollocks, the best answer is "That's what they want you to think".

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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2017, 01:36:38 PM »
So you indulge in a little sarcasm about people not having read what he said, but a reply in kind is somehow 'uncalled for'. Mmm..

The issue that there is no acceptance of Tory govt policy causing any problem. It portrays the bedroom tax, wage austerity and the hounding of the ill as a nothing but good.

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2017, 01:40:17 PM »
I said nothing sarcastic, and I am certainly not trying to defend the Tories in general, or Rees-Smug in particular.
When conspiracy nuts start spouting their bollocks, the best answer is "That's what they want you to think".

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2017, 01:46:31 PM »
I said nothing sarcastic, and I am certainly not trying to defend the Tories in general, or Rees-Smug in particular.
Come now, darling, the sarcasm in the 'if you read his words' is making a vasty puddle below the screen.

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2017, 02:01:34 PM »
One of the reasons why, after voting Labour all my life I will never vote for them again. A town in my neck of the woods, historical house prices taken from

https://tinyurl.com/yd5mxuho

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£61,000 Terraced, Freehold, Residential 25 May 2017 
£70,000 Terraced, Freehold, Residential 04 Aug 2006   
£24,500 Terraced, Freehold, Residential 21 Jun 2001   
£21,000 Terraced, Freehold, Residential 16 Dec 1997

Working mans housing. Terraced house, affordable.

Note the almost trebling in price in the Labour years. That page alone is full of them. Ask yourself if the debt people are saddled with may, or may not be one of the reasons they use a food bank
How can something so perfect be so flawed.

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2017, 02:18:13 PM »
Note the almost trebling in price in the Labour years.
There haven't been any Labour years since the mid 1970s.

For the avoidance of any doubt, when I say 'Labour years' I refer to the years under any politician serving as Prime Minister who adheres to democratic socialism with the emphasis on socialism, who doesn't piss from a great height on the constitution of the Labour Party and whose political idol and spank-bank wet dream isn't Margaret Thatcher.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2017, 02:42:01 PM »
Ah yes, the 70's. The decade the grip of the unions was complete. The decade of strikes, electricity shortages and piles of rotting rubbish on the street. Makes you wonder how Thatcher ever won.

Had I not been so young and politically naïve maybe I should have seen things for what they were then.
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2017, 02:58:57 PM »
Ah yes, the 70's. The decade the grip of the unions was complete. The decade of strikes, electricity shortages and piles of rotting rubbish on the street. Makes you wonder how Thatcher ever won.

Had I not been so young and politically naïve maybe I should have seen things for what they were then.
Actually the 1979-90 Thatcher period was just as bad for numbers of days lost as the 1974-79 Labour period. The thatcher period had 2 huge peaks of strike days lost, one at the beginning of her period in office, and then another virtually as large in the mid 80s. See the link below, scroll to number 13.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4446012.stm

Interesting to see things in a longer historical context. While the 70s and 80s were really bad for strikes by modern comparisons, they pale into insignificance compared to the first part of the 20thC. Also worth noting that the past 25 years or so (under both Labour and Tories) have been historically low for days lost to strikes. See the link and scroll down to Fig. 3

https://cy.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/workplacedisputesandworkingconditions/articles/labourdisputes/2015-07-16

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2017, 03:18:17 PM »
Thanks for the stats, but I don't really care.

What I do care about is that my daughter, who happens to be a nurse working in the NHS, had to pay 110K for her first home that was selling for 44K before the Blair bubble.

Where we are now began way back then.
How can something so perfect be so flawed.

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2017, 03:46:42 PM »
Thanks for the stats, but I don't really care.
Well doesn't that just say it all.

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2017, 04:07:30 PM »
Makes you wonder how Thatcher ever won.
Never underestimate the power of fundamentally selfish, socially illiberal, typically elderly, sclerotic and fearful-of-change bigots with all the social conscience of a Jaffa cake in democratically untenable groups.
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2017, 08:56:13 AM »
Ah yes, the 70's. The decade the grip of the unions was complete. The decade of strikes, electricity shortages and piles of rotting rubbish on the street. Makes you wonder how Thatcher ever won.



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