Parsons Green incident

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Apparent fireball on tube train. Reports of Burns and tramplings in the panic.

[Walter]

Apparent fireball on tube train. Reports of Burns and tramplings in the panic.

it's times like this I wish my daughter didn't live and work in London . I have to weigh up the fact that a young girl from the Yorkshire Dales is living her dream against the risks. She sent a text to say she was okay which helps !

[trippymonkey]

About 8-30 this morning on a West London tube train.
Seems it was inside a box in a large bag. Doesn't look like anyone seriously hurt SO FAR although one man was taken away on a stretcher.
Our prayers & ALL best wishes go to all affected by this outrage.

http://www.independent.co.uk/?S2ref=1602344

Nick

[floo]

I hope no one has been seriously injured in this latest terrorist atrocity.

[floo]

I have nephews who work in offices in London, so with more and more terrorist incidents it is a concern, especially for their parents.

[trippymonkey]

Later news confirms some injuries but some will have been caused by sheer panic.

[Rhiannon]

We're all still more at risk every time we get in our cars though.

Looks like a bit of a bodge so far. My thoughts are with all those affected, it's deeply traumatising.

[Nearly Sane]

We're all still more at risk every time we get in our cars though.

Looks like a bit of a bodge so far. My thoughts are with all those affected, it's deeply traumatising.

And the rate of terrorism over time is probably not what people expect.


http://www.datagraver.com/case/people-killed-by-terrorism-per-year-in-western-europe-1970-2015

[floo]

It appears no one has been seriously injured in this incident, thank goodness.

[JP]

It appears no one has been seriously injured in this incident, thank goodness.

Unless you are the one with severe burns then you may see it differently. I suspect the true level of injuries will be played down and the incident downgraded for the sake of fuck knows.

All part and parcel of life in a big city according to the mayor.

[floo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41283984

May has told Trump off for making stupid, unhelpful tweets about the incident.

[Shaker]

"I never think it's helpful for anybody to speculate on what is an ongoing investigation."

Well that's told him.

[Shaker]

Unless you are the one with severe burns then you may see it differently. I suspect the true level of injuries will be played down and the incident downgraded for the sake of fuck knows.

Unfortunately, 'fuck knows' isn't sufficient for me at least. If you "suspect the true level of injuries will be played down and the incident downgraded" you must have what you regard as some reason for suspecting that "the true level of injuries will be played down and the incident downgraded". What is it?

[jeremyp]

it's times like this I wish my daughter didn't live and work in London . I have to weigh up the fact that a young girl from the Yorkshire Dales is living her dream against the risks. She sent a text to say she was okay which helps !

Stories like this tend to exaggerate the risk. Thirty six people dead from terrorist attacks this year. In 2015, 136 people died in road accidents in London alone.  You should be more concerned that your daughter looks both ways before crossing the road. However, even there, with something like nine million people living in London, the risk is not that high.

[Shaker]

Don't you go bringing facts into it.

[jeremyp]

Unless you are the one with severe burns then you may see it differently. I suspect the true level of injuries will be played down and the incident downgraded for the sake of fuck knows.

No. The government will exaggerate the dangers and play the incident up. This is so that, when they erode our civil liberties even further we will just say "yes ma'am".

[jeremyp]

Don't you go bringing facts into it.

Sorry but I can't help it. This whole things scares me but not for the apparently obvious reason. I'm scared that my freedom will be severely curtailed in the name of protecting us from terrorists. 

[Walter]

Stories like this tend to exaggerate the risk. Thirty six people dead from terrorist attacks this year. In 2015, 136 people died in road accidents in London alone.  You should be more concerned that your daughter looks both ways before crossing the road. However, even there, with something like nine million people living in London, the risk is not that high.

well thanks for that , you cunt!

[Shaker]

Sorry but I can't help it. This whole things scares me but not for the apparently obvious reason. I'm scared that my freedom will be severely curtailed in the name of protecting us from terrorists.

Well, yes.

Just about every time that civil liberties are either actually curtailed or threatened to be curtailed it's done in the name of an -ist of some variety - communist, terrorist, Islamist ... you name it.

[floo]

May has raised the terror threat level to critical.

[Rhiannon]

That happened a good twelve hours ago Floo.

[Rhiannon]

Police have arrested an idiotic 18 yr old.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41292528

[JP]

No. The government will exaggerate the dangers and play the incident up. This is so that, when they erode our civil liberties even further we will just say "yes ma'am".

What civil liberties have been eroded?

Also why call it an 'incident'. Why not an attempted terrorist attack or bombing. Why call it an 'IED' instead of a bomb (and yes I know it is improvised but it is still a bomb). Why not release a picture of the person they are seeking so the wider public can assist. Who is the 18 year old has been arrested, not a name perhaps but a bit more detail like when they arrested the serving members of the Army a few weeks back they were arresting " extremist far right Nazis" but this one is only an 18 year old.

Downplaying.

[Walter]

Well said JP

[Rhiannon]

They can't give more detail in case it screws up the investigation. The terror threat wasn't raised to 'imminent' because of a bunch of neo nazi losers, but because there could be people linked to this dipstick ready to attack at any time. Trump might not know that but users of this forum should.