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NicholasMarks

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Revelation 1-22
« on: September 16, 2017, 12:32:12 PM »
Here's something I prepared earlier for a different audience...enjoy...


Revelation 1-22

It seems that we are well and truly living through that period identified as the ‘last days.’

It is a fearful time and Satan is winding up so much confusion that the hysteria will spread out throughout the world on a global scale and everyone will need to question their faith…but remember this…Almighty God, Jehovah, and Jesus Christ, went to great lengths to prepare us for this time. Even Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection were experienced so that those who put faith in God through Jesus, at this time, will have a deeper hope, and know how to behave at this time. There is no question about whether we can be resurrected or not…we can…all because the energy we are invited to share in, God’s fountain of living waters, is indestructible, and we know that meekness and righteous obedience will attach us to this source of refreshment, delivering all of Jesus’ promises to us, now, throughout these tribulations and in the future new heaven and the new Earth.

We must gear ourselves to await the imminent passing of Wormwood, which, we are told, will ultimately, dissolve the elements…but those following Jesus, accurately, will come to live on, in peace, harmony, health, good-order, and in a righteous new world…but Satan will set many traps for us all, until he is hurled into the great abyss.

Revelation 22:21…May the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus be with the holy ones.   


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Re: Revelation 1-22
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2017, 12:53:49 PM »
Signs of the end times indeed but we've had them many times before, each time worse than previously at least to those living through it. Yet life for most of us is not bad Nick & to dwell too much on what might be is not healthy.  Concern for others is important & enjoying our lives as much as we can too.

At least that passage indicates some will know everlasting & blissful life and the rest will be obliterated, nothing about eternal conscious torment.

Revelation is a story containing some truths but not literally true.  Other faiths, including Hindusim, have similar.
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Re: Revelation 1-22
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2017, 01:13:05 PM »
Signs of the end times indeed but we've had them many times before, each time worse than previously at least to those living through it. Yet life for most of us is not bad Nick & to dwell too much on what might be is not healthy.  Concern for others is important & enjoying our lives as much as we can too.

At least that passage indicates some will know everlasting & blissful life and the rest will be obliterated, nothing about eternal conscious torment.

Revelation is a story containing some truths but not literally true.  Other faiths, including Hindusim, have similar.

Revelation isn't yet fully played out Robinson. In fact, jusr as you have  just stated, it will come at a time when people are  saying all is well. If you had the global perspective you would nkow just how many people all around the world are experiencing some terrible floods, landslides, devastating fires and earthquakes..with much worse xpected. Not to worry though but Almighty God and Jesus don't see it like that and neither do I.




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Re: Revelation 1-22
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2017, 01:43:03 PM »
Revelation is a book of fantasy, which can be interpreted in any crazy way you wish. I feel sorry for those who take it seriously, especially the end timers who have been spouting this garbage since Jesus died. He thought it was going to happen in the lifetime of his disciples, but if he couldn't get it right, no one can.
did you know?

the book of Revelation used to be called the book of Bollocks but the scribes decided to re-name it!

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2017, 01:48:27 PM »
. If you had the global perspective you would nkow just how many people all around the world are experiencing some terrible floods, landslides, devastating fires and earthquakes..
If you bothered to look at the historical global perspective then you would realise that there is nothing new in those disasters.
But you won't because it doesn't fit in with your fantasy.
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Re: Revelation 1-22
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2017, 02:08:16 PM »
Floo/Seb/Walter...

The book of Revelation is an amazing teaching...It is written in a style that suited Bible followers years ago because it contains great power and truth that is denied the less interested and it grows with every generation that studies it.

It starts with the inauguration in Heaven of Jesus Christ over the planet Earth and over the entire jurisdiction of his father, Almighty God.

The 7 churches that Jesus himself started, here on Earth, are represented at that festival and Jesus gives them a stark warning if they misbehave or deviate from his teaching. It also tells us of the 4 living creatures who represent beings from the four corners of the universe. They are from many genetic cultures as noted by their combinations of life forms, and they also represent many people, because of the many eyes on them, and they each have the extra dimension of flight under their belts detailed by their extra wings.

They all agree with Almighty God's plan appertaining to the arrival of this rogue planetary system, that is now approaching the Earth, which is...let it serve as a Judgment. Those that believe in the wonderful way of life captured in Jesus' righteous teaching will be scientifically saved but those who prefer the attitude of those listed in Revelation 21:8 will not. Now...there is much more...but I'm just reading a little from that 'little scroll'...but it is very bitter, so we will do it a stage at a time.

   

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2017, 06:17:04 PM »
Floo/Seb/Walter...

The book of Revelation is an amazing teaching...It is written in a style that suited Bible followers years ago because it contains great power and truth that is denied the less interested and it grows with every generation that studies it.

It starts with the inauguration in Heaven of Jesus Christ over the planet Earth and over the entire jurisdiction of his father, Almighty God.

The 7 churches that Jesus himself started, here on Earth, are represented at that festival and Jesus gives them a stark warning if they misbehave or deviate from his teaching. It also tells us of the 4 living creatures who represent beings from the four corners of the universe. They are from many genetic cultures as noted by their combinations of life forms, and they also represent many people, because of the many eyes on them, and they each have the extra dimension of flight under their belts detailed by their extra wings.

They all agree with Almighty God's plan appertaining to the arrival of this rogue planetary system, that is now approaching the Earth, which is...let it serve as a Judgment. Those that believe in the wonderful way of life captured in Jesus' righteous teaching will be scientifically saved but those who prefer the attitude of those listed in Revelation 21:8 will not. Now...there is much more...but I'm just reading a little from that 'little scroll'...but it is very bitter, so we will do it a stage at a time.

 

NicholasMarks

I am amazed that you cannot hear the gales of lauughter that greets every post you make based upon your version of Chritianity, I have friends (yes, I do) who are Christian and even they consider you to exist on the very edges of Christianity when it comes to your interpretation of the Bible.

Some have even stated that they consider you to be one of those Christians who are probably driving people from the Church and stopping others from joining it.

The expression 'living in a world of your own' comes to mind.
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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Re: Revelation 1-22
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2017, 06:48:06 PM »
Revelation isn't yet fully played out Robinson. In fact, jusr as you have  just stated, it will come at a time when people are  saying all is well. If you had the global perspective you would nkow just how many people all around the world are experiencing some terrible floods, landslides, devastating fires and earthquakes..with much worse xpected. Not to worry though but Almighty God and Jesus don't see it like that and neither do I.

Nicholas, there have always been devastating natural disasters - there's been no time since beginning of time when these have not happened. Wars too. When I said "..all is good", I meant here in the 'Western world' & I meant for most of us probably including you.  Even here terrible things happen, we've had several recently.  We can't be complacent but are we supposed to be forever worrying about what might happen or go on with our business.

There is nothing new under the sun Nicholas.  You may be right, I can't tell but I cannot stop the inevitable.  While I'm here I do the best I can.

Owlswing, do you really discuss R&E posters with friends?

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Re: Revelation 1-22
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2017, 12:22:12 PM »
Nicholas, there have always been devastating natural disasters - there's been no time since beginning of time when these have not happened. Wars too. When I said "..all is good", I meant here in the 'Western world' & I meant for most of us probably including you.  Even here terrible things happen, we've had several recently.  We can't be complacent but are we supposed to be forever worrying about what might happen or go on with our business.

There is nothing new under the sun Nicholas.  You may be right, I can't tell but I cannot stop the inevitable.  While I'm here I do the best I can.

Owlswing, do you really discuss R&E posters with friends?

First of all I suggest you take a peek at what is happening in America, as we speak. Secondly, I invite you to look at some youtube videos by the Two Preachers and all their research of unreported, but very serious, disasters that are occurring...as we speak, involving millions of people, from all around the world and which is largely going unreported. You might also like to look up in your skies occasionally and let me know what you think about all the chemtrailing. I could go on but you are unreceptive...but that doesn't prevent me from saying that it is all forewarned from within the Holy Bible which tells us how to be the most effective throughout...and, dare I say it...It involves the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

ps...mention this to Seb and Floo as well.

 
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Re: Revelation 1-22
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2017, 12:30:25 PM »
NicholasMarks

I am amazed that you cannot hear the gales of lauughter that greets every post you make based upon your version of Chritianity, I have friends (yes, I do) who are Christian and even they consider you to exist on the very edges of Christianity when it comes to your interpretation of the Bible.

Some have even stated that they consider you to be one of those Christians who are probably driving people from the Church and stopping others from joining it.

The expression 'living in a world of your own' comes to mind.

I'm all for a bit of humour Owlswing. Most Christians, correction, all Christians, have got to prepare for their bride and this can only mean putting on righteousness and the only way to do this is by...well...as above in Robinson's reply. Very soon you will come to realise why I am adamant on these matters...but at least you will have an escape route as long as you haven't burnt your bridges.

Your Christian friends aren't doing too much in saving you, are they??


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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2017, 02:09:33 PM »
I'm all for a bit of humour Owlswing. Most Christians, correction, all Christians, have got to prepare for their bride and this can only mean putting on righteousness and the only way to do this is by...well...as above in Robinson's reply. Very soon you will come to realise why I am adamant on these matters...but at least you will have an escape route as long as you haven't burnt your bridges.

Your Christian friends aren't doing too much in saving you, are they??
you crack me up mate , well done hahahaha

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2017, 04:29:53 PM »
You aren't 'saving ' anyone NM, your posts lack any credibility.

The Holy Bible has all the credibility I need, Floo. No one can supercede Jesus Christ's teaching...I'm simply trying to help, and, on that path, certain ideas of how I can be saved and how you can be saved have flooded into my mind's eye...because when you realise how the bare bones of science work a whole network of our difficult problems finds expression in our thinking.

It is that science I am trying to righteously tell you all about because in the proccess of discovering and working these things I have gleaned a lot of evidence...but it isn't for sneerers, or the unGodly, I can wait until after Wormwood. But I would prefer that many others are saved...though I know that their sincere consent to adhere to righteousness, accurately, as Jesus alone taught us, is an imperative.


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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2017, 05:08:31 PM »
I'm all for a bit of humour Owlswing. Most Christians, correction, all Christians, have got to prepare for their bride and this can only mean putting on righteousness and the only way to do this is by...well...as above in Robinson's reply. Very soon you will come to realise why I am adamant on these matters...but at least you will have an escape route as long as you haven't burnt your bridges.

Your Christian friends aren't doing too much in saving you, are they??

You first paragraph is not worthy of comment.

My Christian friends are, and remain, my Christian friends because they are open-minded enough to recognise that their religious beliefs are, like my own, matters of FAITH and NOT of FACT and thus there is little friction on the subject.

The difference between my Christian friends and you, NM, is that they talk sense while you talk, IMO, total bollocks.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2017, 05:13:20 PM »
The Holy Bible has all the credibility I need, Floo. No one can supercede Jesus Christ's teaching...I'm simply trying to help, and, on that path, certain ideas of how I can be saved and how you can be saved have flooded into my mind's eye...because when you realise how the bare bones of science work a whole network of our difficult problems finds expression in our thinking.

It is that science I am trying to righteously tell you all about because in the proccess of discovering and working these things I have gleaned a lot of evidence...but it isn't for sneerers, or the unGodly, I can wait until after Wormwood. But I would prefer that many others are saved...though I know that their sincere consent to adhere to righteousness, accurately, as Jesus alone taught us, is an imperative.

Sorry NM your posts make no sense at all, no one on this forum, including Christians, take you seriously. I know many Christians and not one of them has equated their faith with 'science'.

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Re: Revelation 1-22
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2017, 05:14:26 PM »

Owlswing, do you really discuss R&E posters with friends?


NO NO NO a thousand times NO! That would be, I imagine, a monumental breach of Forum rules and etiquette!

What I do discuss with them, the Christian ones, are the contents of some of the more ridiculous beliefs and positions posted. 

The general concensus offered by my Christian friends is that the people posting the opinions discussed are either on a huge wind-up or are stupid or on the outer fringes of Christian belief.

The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2017, 06:42:36 PM »
NO NO NO a thousand times NO! That would be, I imagine, a monumental breach of Forum rules and etiquette!

What I do discuss with them, the Christian ones, are the contents of some of the more ridiculous beliefs and positions posted. 

The general concensus offered by my Christian friends is that the people posting the opinions discussed are either on a huge wind-up or are stupid or on the outer fringes of Christian belief.

You realise that the Jewish priests and those that were easily influenced by them said exactly the same things about Jesus don't you Owlswing.


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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2017, 07:58:41 PM »

You realise that the Jewish priests and those that were easily influenced by them said exactly the same things about Jesus don't you Owlswing.


Without resort to quoting from the Bible show me where there is any evidence of these people saying the things you are saying that they said.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2017, 08:42:51 PM »
Without resort to quoting from the Bible show me where there is any evidence of these people saying the things you are saying that they said.

The Jews are saying it still Owlswing...and I read similar comments on this forum about this wonderful person who leads those who need him most out of the hands of oppression...not necessarily the type of oppression you might consider oppression, but the type that is creeping up on the whole world even as we speak and which will be fully revealed to us all, soon enough.


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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2017, 02:00:44 AM »

The Jews are saying it still Owlswing...and I read similar comments on this forum about this wonderful person who leads those who need him most out of the hands of oppression...not necessarily the type of oppression you might consider oppression, but the type that is creeping up on the whole world even as we speak and which will be fully revealed to us all, soon enough.


Do me a favour please, NM

When you decide to speak/write in English and not gobbledegook send me a PM and I will start to read your posts again - at the moment reading them just gives me a headache bordering on a migraine.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2017, 10:09:26 AM »
Do me a favour please, NM

When you decide to speak/write in English and not gobbledegook send me a PM and I will start to read your posts again - at the moment reading them just gives me a headache bordering on a migraine.
it's a wind up , a very clever one , don't get drawn in.
NM is a fictitious character, as is another I see on here!

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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2017, 10:33:11 AM »
Do me a favour please, NM

When you decide to speak/write in English and not gobbledegook send me a PM and I will start to read your posts again - at the moment reading them just gives me a headache bordering on a migraine.

Very soon you will all know what I'm talking about, Owlswing. I'm seeing it ahead of you lot because, well, I have listened to Revelation and have a very good idea of how it will all pan out...and Jesus Christ looms large in how it will affect us all.


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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2017, 10:36:01 AM »
Very soon you will all know what I'm talking about
Be honest now Nick.
For how many years have you been predicting 'soon'/'very soon'?
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2017, 10:40:18 AM »
Very soon you will all know what I'm talking about, Owlswing. I'm seeing it ahead of you lot because, well, I have listened to Revelation and have a very good idea of how it will all pan out...and Jesus Christ looms large in how it will affect us all.
I'm guessing you are game keeper turned poacher with an agenda to turn people away from Christianity by making it look ridiculous. You are doing a great job and very amusing too . keep it up Nick.

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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2017, 11:09:12 AM »
Be honest now Nick.
For how many years have you been predicting 'soon'/'very soon'?

Soon...here...means imminently...it's already happening...Seb. You just have to be tuned in to see it. If the Holy Bible doesn't cut it with you try youtube using the tabs...chemtrails, planet x, hurricane irma, fema camps...and don't think you are somehow excused because...well...it doesn't bother you too much...because the Last Trumpet will settle all scores, once and for all...It's all in Revelation.


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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2017, 11:35:42 AM »
Soon...here...means imminently...it's already happening...Seb. You just have to be tuned in to see it. If the Holy Bible doesn't cut it with you try youtube using the tabs...chemtrails, planet x, hurricane irma, fema camps...and don't think you are somehow excused because...well...it doesn't bother you too much...because the Last Trumpet will settle all scores, once and for all...It's all in Revelation.

I reckon some people will be making 'end times' predictions 2000 years hence assuming Christianity hasn't been dispensed with.