Revelation 1-22

[Nearly Sane]

When I need advice on science I will go to someone whose opinions I respect, thank you.

Dawkins - no- not my cup of tea - his atheism is almost as repugnant to me as Sassy's, Hope's and your Christianity.

Sagan - maybe, but I haven't read or seen much of his work.

Why would Dawkins' atheism affect whether you would take his advice on science?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

...and you?

A whole host thank you, most recently Davies I suppose.

[Sebastian Toe]

A whole host thank you, most recently Davies I suppose.

Not Marks?

[Owlswing]

Why would Dawkins' atheism affect whether you would take his advice on science?

Strangely enough because I only know him for his atheism

[Shaker]

Strangely enough because I only know him for his atheism

Unfortunately this is true of many - too many.

[Harrowby Hall]

I have just been exploring Wikipedia. I came across the name Zecharia Sitchin.

I did not dig any further after reading the Wiki entry, but there did appear to be some similarity between Mr Sitchin's ... err ... intellectual outpourings and our Nick's hidden planet stuff. Read it yourselves.

Incidentally, I did not watch all of the YouTube farrago - I have my sanity to think of - but am I correct in thinking that something significant is going to happen on 23 September?  Have we got a reliable date for the end of the world or something?

[ippy]

Perhaps that is because I prefer to be guided by Jesus Christ rather than Floo.

How can you possibly be guided by someone that odds on probably didn't even exist as being someone out of the ordinary.

It's doubtful and unlikely he was sent here by anything or anyone that there is zero evidence for, like a non existent god, and the fact he's been dead for about a couple of thousand years anyway, plus the stories about him were written some time after his death and they can't and haven't been verified as factual either?

Assertions don't, never can or have counted as evidence at any time, I wonder why this fact is so hard for you to understand Nick?

Perhaps you're missing something Nick, suppose I went to my bank and asked them for one of the two million pounds I don't have in my account, the bank clark will look at my account on the computer screen and then say well you've only got a fiver in your account, so I think to myself this is easy, and I say no I've got a couple of million in there, then the bank clark says, oh sorry I didn't realise and promptly asks me how I want the money paid out? It's not going to happen is it Nick?

Now the above is how you come over to me when you're presenting things like Jesus says:

You wouldn't expect the bank to accept my assertion that I've two million in my bank account, why do you think it's any more acceptable to accept your assertion when in an exactly similar way when you assert things like Jesus says this or that?

I haven't got a shred of evidence that I've got two million quid in the bank any more than you have a shred of evidence that Jesus said this, that or anything else when you assert he said this, that or anything else?

You very well may believe Jesus said all sorts of things Nick, but without verifiable evidence how can you or anyone else possibly know if he even existed and if he did, did he say the things you think he said Nick?

Again where's your verifiable evidence that this he she or it thing you refer to as god really exists? Simple question Nick.

No need for a sermon Nick just an answer to the question asked'll do.

Kind regards ippy

[Udayana]

I have just been exploring Wikipedia. I came across the name Zecharia Sitchin.

I did not dig any further after reading the Wiki entry, but there did appear to be some similarity between Mr Sitchin's ... err ... intellectual outpourings and our Nick's hidden planet stuff. Read it yourselves.

Incidentally, I did not watch all of the YouTube farrago - I have my sanity to think of - but am I correct in thinking that something significant is going to happen on 23 September?  Have we got a reliable date for the end of the world or something?

Sitchin is quite interesting, he starts his speculation based on (supposedly) clues left behind by ancient visitors from space rather than the bible. His work does contain a lot of interesting facts and ideas unlike NM's which is a complete stream of nonsense. If alien cosmonauts did leave clues, maybe they were incorporated in the bible in some, possibly distorted, form?

Anyway, a recent study has found a record of a comet (probably asteroid) impact with earth, correlated with the start of the Younger Dryas, on the pillars at Gobekli Tepi. Something suggested by Graham Hancock - who references Sitchin on various points.

https://phys.org/news/2017-04-ancient-stone-pillars-clues-comet.html

None of this is to say that predictions of such events have any credibility. We need to find and track the objects in space and determine if they are headed for us. Even if we find they are, there is little we can do about it - let's just hope they are small and don't hit anything critical.

[Harrowby Hall]

Here is a reference to events expected on 23 September:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/856288/end-of-the-world-September-23-2017-Nibiru-Planet-X

Please note that it comes from one of the most authoritative and respected organs of the British press and that it is labelled "Science". It cannot therefore be rejected as a hoax. We must take it at its face value. Everything will change on Saturday - life on Earth as we know it will be totally destroyed.

I suppose I must take my leave from you all. Thank you, Nick, for drawing this to my attention - I owe you a great debt of gratitude. I dare say I may well post items on this forum during whatever time is left to me, but let me take this opportunity to say good bye to all my friends on the Religion and Ethics Forum.   

[Walter]

Sitchin is quite interesting, he starts his speculation based on (supposedly) clues left behind by ancient visitors from space rather than the bible. His work does contain a lot of interesting facts and ideas unlike NM's which is a complete stream of nonsense. If alien cosmonauts did leave clues, maybe they were incorporated in the bible in some, possibly distorted, form?

Anyway, a recent study has found a record of a comet (probably asteroid) impact with earth, correlated with the start of the Younger Dryas, on the pillars at Gobekli Tepi. Something suggested by Graham Hancock - who references Sitchin on various points.

https://phys.org/news/2017-04-ancient-stone-pillars-clues-comet.html

None of this is to say that predictions of such events have any credibility. We need to find and track the objects in space and determine if they are headed for us. Even if we find they are, there is little we can do about it - let's just hope they are small and don't hit anything critical.

oh dear! oh dear oh frickin dear!

[Udayana]

oh dear! oh dear oh frickin dear!

ah .. you don't like "off the wall" theories?

[Owlswing]

ah .. you don't like "off the wall" theories?

He doesn't like anyone or anything to do with religion!

His only real skill - as demonstrated on this Forum - is abuse in one form or another.

[Udayana]

It's not religious, just mad on its own terms 

[Owlswing]

It's not religious, just mad on its own terms 

Expect to get Modded - you are not allowed to call someone's mental state into question

[SusanDoris]

oh dear! oh dear oh frickin dear!

Many years ago I was recommended to read Sitchin. Well, I bought a bargain set of paperbacks and was quite interested. Then looked for the sceptical view - which confirmed my opinion of the books!  Later I put them all, torn up, into the recycle bag, since I thought it would be unfair to encourage even one person to start believing them. There were some interesting pictures and points of view, but these were vastly outweighed by the distortions of facts and history.

[Walter]

He doesn't like anyone or anything to do with religion!

His only real skill - as demonstrated on this Forum - is abuse in one form or another.

I love it when others speak for me, saves me the trouble.
Owly, do you feel suitably abused yet?

[ippy]

Hi there Nick, just a thought, I note you disappear when someone, anyone nails you down to answering a specific question?

What's the problem Nick, can't answer without giving a sermon?

Haw about writing a sermon accompanied with an answer to the actual question asked, then that should keep you happy on both counts?

Hope to hear from you soon Nick with an answer and I wish you all of the very best, Lusi ippy

[BeRational]

No doubt NM is waiting with baited breath for that planet to collide with Earth tomorrow so he can say, 'I told you so'! If it doesn't happen, as is likely, I suspect he will disappear for a while until he can come up with another 'end times' scenario with which to 'terrify' us.

I'm busy tomorrow, can we delay it?

[ippy]

I'm busy tomorrow, can we delay it?

Do you know the old one, 'It's not the end of the world I'm worried about, it's the day after'.

Daft, yes, but I like it.

ippy

[jeremyp]

I bet a large sum of dosh we will still be here, posting as usual, on Sept 24th.

Did you post that before you knew I'd be upgrading the forum software today?

[Walter]

NICK I'm so disappointed so far Only 11and half hours left here.!!!!!!!!   and NOTHING

[Harrowby Hall]

Phew

Wow

What an experience. That blazing flash of all-consuming light. The roaring sound - so deep it was unfathomable. The way the whole world began to spin and the overwhelming simultaneous feeling of weight and weightlessness as gravity disappeared.

And the sight of the whole of humanity standing before The Great Throne. Totally naked - including that girl from down the road with the big ....

And then I woke up.



Well, Nick, another defeat for the credulous.

[Owlswing]

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/end-of-world-still-coming-soon-christian-numerologists-say-it-was-just-postponed/ar-AAsqa7C?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp

The end of the world has been postponed until October 21st!

When it will be postponed until - - - anyoine taking bets on the next World End date?

[Gordon]

Moderator:

Please note that a number of posts that involved commenting on various other members have been removed as a derail.

[jeremyp]

When it will be postponed until - - - anyoine taking bets on the next World End date?

October 21st is slated I believe.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/09/25/doomsday-october-bible/