Shazza

[Humph Warden Bennett]

OK do you forgive Shazza?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41260760

[Humph Warden Bennett]

OK do you forgive Shazza?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41260760

Oh come on now, somebody must have an opinion

[Owlswing]

Oh come on now, somebody must have an opinion

Do I forgive her?

I cannot say Yea or Nay.

I really cannot understsnd why prescription medications are banned. I think I remember that at least one of the most used asthma medications, of the most effective 'Relievers', as opposed to 'Preventers', is on the banned list.

Apparently Sharapova used a banned prescription drug ONCE and has served her sentence - FFS it took how long to catch Armstrong?

How many other tennis players have got away with it and are still getting away with it?

The French tennis player lady who has been the most vocal against Sharapova is Eugenie Bouchard who has achieved tournament semi-finals ONCE, quarter finals ONCE and gone out in the first or second rounds of every other tournament she has entered.

Sour grapes or what!

[Humph Warden Bennett]

That is very much my take on it, I don't see why Sharapova should be forever castigated for one mistake. It's not as if she was paying for opponents to be deliberately injured.

[jeremyp]

OK do you forgive Shazza?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41260760

It's not for me to forgive her or not. She's done me no wrong.

She's served the sentence imposed on her, so I think that should be the end of it.

I'm not convinced by her story btw and I think the length of her suspension suggests that the authorities weren't either.

[jeremyp]

I really cannot understsnd why prescription medications are banned. I think I remember that at least one of the most used asthma medications, of the most effective 'Relievers', as opposed to 'Preventers', is on the banned list.

That's simple. Doctors can be found who will lie about what illnesses you might or might not have.

Apparently Sharapova used a banned prescription drug ONCE and has served her sentence - FFS it took how long to catch Armstrong?

No, she used it a lot while it was legal and apparently failed to notice when it was made illegal.

The French tennis player lady who has been the most vocal against Sharapova is Eugenie Bouchard who has achieved tournament semi-finals ONCE, quarter finals ONCE and gone out in the first or second rounds of every other tournament she has entered.

Sour grapes or what!

I don't know about sour grapes, but Sharapova has served her sentence. I think Bouchard was out of order.

[Nearly Sane]

That's simple. Doctors can be found who will lie about what illnesses you might or might not have.

No, she used it a lot while it was legal and apparently failed to notice when it was made illegal.

I don't know about sour grapes, but Sharapova has served her sentence. I think Bouchard was out of order.

Why is Bouchard 'out of order'? Isn't she entitled to an opinion? If she is, what is wrong with expressing it?

[jeremyp]

Why is Bouchard 'out of order'? Isn't she entitled to an opinion? If she is, what is wrong with expressing it?

Sharapova served her sentence. What Bouchard said was inflammatory.

[Nearly Sane]

Sharapova served her sentence. What Bouchard said was inflammatory.

Brexit won the referendum, arguing against it now is inflammatory.

[Owlswing]

No, she used it a lot while it was legal and apparently failed to notice when it was made illegal.

This is one of the poinyts that I do not understand - how can a drug in common use suddenly get banned?

Let me take a case in point - My asthma 'Reliever' - if I do not take it I rapidly lose the abilty to breath efficiently thus becoming incapable, for instance, of running around a tennis court.

I take a couple of puffs during a match because I am short of breath and I can carry on.

By definition my performance has been enhanced yet asthmatic sportsmen, as I understand it, are allowed to use an asthma "Reliever".

[Nearly Sane]

This is one of the poinyts that I do not understand - how can a drug in common use suddenly get banned?

Let me take a case in point - My asthma 'Reliever' - if I do not take it I rapidly lose the abilty to breath efficiently thus becoming incapable, for instance, of running around a tennis court.

I take a couple of puffs during a match because I am short of breath and I can carry on.

By definition my performance has been enhanced yet asthmatic sportsmen, as I understand it, are allowed to use an asthma "Reliever".

Except some medicines that are prescribed can have a beneficial effect for those who do not suffer from the condition. This may not at first be obvious but if it becomes apparent then these, as happened in the case of meldonium, can then become banned.

There will usually be in such cases an alternative allowing someone suffering from the condition which is not banned, though in certain cases there might be an allowed use of the banned medicine with a TUE, therapeutic use exemption. Though as per the controversy surrounding Bradley Wiggins use of these, it's problematic as well. 

[Owlswing]

Except some medicines that are prescribed can have a beneficial effect for those who do not suffer from the condition. This may not at first be obvious but if it becomes apparent then these, as happened in the case of meldonium, can then become banned.

There will usually be in such cases an alternative allowing someone suffering from the condition which is not banned, though in certain cases there might be an allowed use of the banned medicine with a TUE, therapeutic use exemption. Though as per the controversy surrounding Bradley Wiggins use of these, it's problematic as well.

So part of the problem was that, had Sharapova 'realised' that her medication, which, as above, she had been using for some time legally, was now illegal she could have applied for a TUE and avoided the ban.

Little Miss French Sour Grapes would have had to suffer her own inadequacies in silence.

[Nearly Sane]

So part of the problem was that, had Sharapova 'realised' that her medication, which, as above, she had been using for some time legally, was now illegal she could have applied for a TUE and avoided the ban.

Little Miss French Sour Grapes would have had to suffer her own inadequacies in silence.

Not sure if a TUE would be granted.


I don't see what relevance Bouchard's career has to whether she is right here. Btw she is Canadian

[Owlswing]

Not sure if a TUE would be granted.


I don't see what relevance Bouchard's career has to whether she is right here. Btw she is Canadian

If she has been taking it for soime time this would suggest a medical reason for doing so.

The article I read stated she was French.

[Nearly Sane]

If she has been taking it for soime time this would suggest a medical reason for doing so.

The article I read stated she was French.

Which doesn't mean that the TUE would be granted. Nor to the possibility that it wasn't a real condition and was about the perceived benefit.


What incorrect article you read about Bouchard is irrelevant to the question of the relevance of her career (which it was also incorrect on) to whether she was correct.