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Nearly Sane

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The Road to Downing St
« on: September 30, 2017, 12:14:49 PM »

Let's never forget that Boris Johnson as well as being an ambitious shite,  happy to stick a knife in,  is an unpleasant slugslurper


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/30/boris-johnson-caught-on-camera-reciting-kipling-in-myanmar-temple?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2017, 12:17:39 PM »
"... former international development secretary Andrew Mitchell says [Johnson] is “impossible to dislike”."

Like a great many people I've never found it difficult in the slightest.
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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2017, 05:05:29 PM »
Let's never forget that Boris Johnson as well as being an ambitious shite,  happy to stick a knife in,  is an unpleasant slugslurper


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/30/boris-johnson-caught-on-camera-reciting-kipling-in-myanmar-temple?CMP=share_btn_tw
he's my kinda bloke, don't expect me to jump on the R&E forum band waggon  ::)


and Henry Bolton, what a breath of fresh air

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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2017, 08:33:05 PM »
Johnson is the UKs Trump.

A thin skinned, compulsive liar who would sell his own granny to get what he wants
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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2017, 12:03:58 AM »
Johnson is the UKs Trump.

A thin skinned, compulsive liar who would sell his own granny to get what he wants
you've just described all politicians there.

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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2017, 12:25:04 PM »
you've just described all politicians there.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/sep/30/why-it-was-no-picnic-growing-up-as-the-son-of-a-tory-mp

If we so dismiss all politicians we get the government we deserve.

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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2017, 12:40:54 PM »
Its horrific and amusing in one. He is in the cabinet, in a position where he can continually undermine May, who dare not sack him for worry that he would rally the hard core leavers to replace her.
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2017, 12:44:08 PM »
Michael Heseltine has just said on the politics show that there is no chance of May leading the Tories at the time of the next election.

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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2017, 05:22:41 AM »
The poem itself is actually about how brilliant Mandalay is compared to 'Hengland', so this shouldn't really cause offence.

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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2017, 06:53:53 AM »
The poem itself is actually about how brilliant Mandalay is compared to 'Hengland', so this shouldn't really cause offence.
apart from him being in a temple at the time and if he continued about to refer to heathens and idols made of mud

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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2017, 07:53:17 AM »
I have just e-mailed my MP to ask him to tell Theresa May from me that I recommend she treats that Grant Shaps's words with the contempt they deserve. The BBC are also to blame for giving him far too much air time yesterday evening, and I've just heard him again on Today.

I wish we stil have that old BBC emoticon of steam coming out of ears!)(
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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2017, 08:33:44 AM »
I have just e-mailed my MP to ask him to tell Theresa May from me that I recommend she treats that Grant Shaps's words with the contempt they deserve. The BBC are also to blame for giving him far too much air time yesterday evening, and I've just heard him again on Today.

I wish we stil have that old BBC emoticon of steam coming out of ears!)(
You wont get much support around here for a stance critical of the BBC around here I'm afraid.

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2017, 08:36:37 AM »
I have just e-mailed my MP to ask him to tell Theresa May from me that I recommend she treats that Grant Shaps's words with the contempt they deserve. The BBC are also to blame for giving him far too much air time yesterday evening, and I've just heard him again on Today.

Were I a Conservative supporter, I would be emailing my MP requesting him to align himself with Grant Shapps immediately.

Theresa May ran an unnecessary and disastrous election campaign and is solely responsible for the unsatisfactory position in which the party now finds itself. She has given the continued impression that she is out of her depth. She has no apparent strategy for Brexit nor any visible objectives beyond hanging on in office.

She (just like her immediate predecessor) has been more interested in the immediate concerns of her party than in the long term needs of her country.

Should she continue in office for much longer she will alienate a sufficient proportion of the electorate to ensure the election of a Labour Party which seems to have adopted Venezuela as its benchmark for national management.
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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2017, 08:37:53 AM »
You wont get much support around here for a stance critical of the BBC around here I'm afraid.
So you agree with Susan and think thy should be more supportive if May.

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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2017, 08:49:42 AM »
I have just e-mailed my MP to ask him to tell Theresa May from me that I recommend she treats that Grant Shaps's words with the contempt they deserve. The BBC are also to blame for giving him far too much air time yesterday evening, and I've just heard him again on Today.

I wish we stil have that old BBC emoticon of steam coming out of ears!)(
Gove seems to support you which suggests Boris still wants Theresa or anyone to clear his Brexit poo up for him.
Looks like a remainer conspiracy to me.

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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2017, 08:55:07 AM »
TM seems to have made a mess of things, but there doesn't appear to be anyone outstanding to replace her. The idea of Boris or Gove  as PM is too awful to think about, imo.

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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2017, 09:36:57 AM »
TM seems to have made a mess of things, but there doesn't appear to be anyone outstanding to replace her. The idea of Boris or Gove  as PM is too awful to think about, imo.
What about Hammond or Rees Mogg or Rudders? Gove wants someone to clean up the Brexit Do Do. I'm wondering whether Boris as PM might appear on TV and say ''waff waff waff gru Now look Chaps I've thought about this brexit thing and waff waff Gru it's a bit of a silly idea waffwaff gru so I've decided to waff waff kick it into the very long grass.''

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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2017, 10:48:16 AM »
What about Hammond or Rees Mogg or Rudders? Gove wants someone to clean up the Brexit Do Do. I'm wondering whether Boris as PM might appear on TV and say ''waff waff waff gru Now look Chaps I've thought about this brexit thing and waff waff Gru it's a bit of a silly idea waffwaff gru so I've decided to waff waff kick it into the very long grass.''

Rees Mogg is an unpleasant hypocrite, apparently he claims to be against abortion, but has made money from the sale of illegal abortion pills in other countries!

Rudd doesn't fill me with enthusiasm.

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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2017, 11:01:45 AM »
Floo, the Rees Mogg/ abortion pill situation is far more nuanced than that.

He's unpleasant anyway.


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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2017, 11:28:31 AM »
I have just e-mailed my MP to ask him to tell Theresa May from me that I recommend she treats that Grant Shaps's words with the contempt they deserve. The BBC are also to blame for giving him far too much air time yesterday evening, and I've just heard him again on Today.

I wish we stil have that old BBC emoticon of steam coming out of ears!)(

Why should the BBC prop up Mrs May?  If they did that, they would rightly be accused of bias.    To ignore the obvious divisions in the Tories would be bad journalism. 
« Last Edit: October 06, 2017, 11:32:42 AM by wigginhall »
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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2017, 11:48:10 AM »
TM seems to have made a mess of things, but there doesn't appear to be anyone outstanding to replace her. The idea of Boris or Gove  as PM is too awful to think about, imo.
Definitely agree, Floo.

What annoys me sometimes is that as soon as a person becomes PM, he or she is expected not to make mistakes.

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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2017, 11:49:22 AM »
Why should the BBC prop up Mrs May?  If they did that, they would rightly be accused of bias.    To ignore the obvious divisions in the Tories would be bad journalism.
To me Ruth Davidson seems the best potential successor to May in terms of how she communicates and comes across to the public. Of the rest Johnson, Davis, Leadsom, Gove, JRM seem fatally flawed - Rudd and Hammond seem perhaps more acceptable in a 'boring but safe pair of hands kind of way'. However neither engages as Davidson does.

Having said that Davidson is actually deeply inexperienced - her biggest job being leader of an opposition party in a devolved assembly - no actual experience of having to make and implement tough decisions in government. There was a letter in the Times the other day stating that she was a proven winner - err what ... she has never won an election to any parliament or council in her own right, only as a list candidate. She did win the Scottish Conservative leadership election - but to do she only attracted just over 2000 first preference votes - my local county councillor got more than that!

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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2017, 12:01:59 PM »
Why should the BBC prop up Mrs May?  If they did that, they would rightly be accused of bias.    To ignore the obvious divisions in the Tories would be bad journalism.
No the BBC should not prop up a PM or an MP, but if all that air time is given to anti-May Shaps, then  equal space should have been given to someone pro-May. Perhaps they did, but I didn't hear it.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2017, 12:04:01 PM »
Why should the BBC prop up Mrs May?  If they did that, they would rightly be accused of bias.    To ignore the obvious divisions in the Tories would be bad journalism.

Yes, this is a huge story. We could have another PM by Christmas.

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Re: The Road to Downing St
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2017, 12:05:21 PM »
To me Ruth Davidson seems the best potential successor to May in terms of how she communicates and comes across to the public. Of the rest Johnson, Davis, Leadsom, Gove, JRM seem fatally flawed - Rudd and Hammond seem perhaps more acceptable in a 'boring but safe pair of hands kind of way'. However neither engages as Davidson does.

Having said that Davidson is actually deeply inexperienced - her biggest job being leader of an opposition party in a devolved assembly - no actual experience of having to make and implement tough decisions in government. There was a letter in the Times the other day stating that she was a proven winner - err what ... she has never won an election to any parliament or council in her own right, only as a list candidate. She did win the Scottish Conservative leadership election - but to do she only attracted just over 2000 first preference votes - my local county councillor got more than that!
  Yes, I did hear the sound of breaking glass with her jibe against Corbyn of not even having won a raffle. And unless the Tories were somehow going to be lead by someone who wasn't PM she would have to win a seat first. I can imagine someone might be persuaded to fall upon their  sword but it might not be easy to win such an election. (who knows some burly men might intervene!)