Sexual Abuse and Prominent People

[floo]

I see he has been suspended by the Labour Party

Good.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

So he was a wally thirteen years ago? It's not like he was imprisoned for fraud.

[Rhiannon]

Yeah but he’s a politician, and they are supposed to not be wallies. I agree with NS; shit vetting by Labour.

[Robbie]

He made the remarks when very young. I doubt he would make them now.
Can we not forgive youthful remarks?

[Rhiannon]

22 isn’t ‘very young’; that aside I don’t see what forgiveness has to do with whether someone is fit to be an MP or not.

[Harrowby Hall]

Who knows what you could dig up about anyone if you went back far enough.

If all potential MPs had to be above suspicion I would imagine the House of Commons would bedifficult to fill.

[Rhiannon]

I don't know enough about how well he has done as an MP to judge whether this is truly fair or not, but the fact is that unfortunate youthful social media postings cost people job opportunities later, and not just MPs. Would this be ok if he were a teacher?

[SteveH]

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy. I'm sure he'll live it down, though.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

I wonder if a person's physical appearance has anything to do with the motivations of harassers like Harvey Weinstein.... He is a profoundly unattractive man. There can be no doubt that without his powerful position, he would be chum in a regular dating pool and he must know it. So what people call an addiction to pleasure could, as easily, be diagnosed as an addiction to degrade and abuse those who they know would not look at them twice if they were behind the counter of a convenience store.

We can treat people like him for addiction, but if he thinks the women enjoyed any of this, he might want to consider counseling for delusion as well.

Sexual harassment is unwanted. It's no more enjoyable if one is harassed by somebody who looks like a model, than if one is harassed by somebody who looks like a gargoyle. And in many cases it is not being touched, or being given unwanted compliments, or unwanted propositions, it is spiteful name calling jokes, & allegations.

[floo]

Sexual harassment is unwanted. It's no more enjoyable if one is harassed by somebody who looks like a model, than if one is harassed by somebody who looks like a gargoyle. And in many cases it is not being touched, or being given unwanted compliments, or unwanted propositions, it is spiteful name calling jokes, & allegations.

Agreed.

[Nearly Sane]

And now this had unsurprisingly become not just about O'Mara but any number of politicians? Garnier been suspended yet?

[Nearly Sane]

Mmm way to deflect, Kevin!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41799026

[Walter]

Mmm way to deflect, Kevin!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41799026

I have a 'story' about a current radio 2 presenter , do you think I should tell it?

[Shaker]

I have a 'story' about a current radio 2 presenter , do you think I should tell it?

Only if you make up a name completely and utterly unlike that of said presenter.

But close enough so we all know who you mean, though. Obviously.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

At the 1976 Xmas Party of Orpington College, Kent,  held at the Anchor & Hope public house , down the road, I asked Tracey X if she would kiss me under the mistletoe. She blushed, shook her head, and then her friend, Liz Y, told her "Go on and kiss him".

If I were an MP now, both Liz and I would be in trouble. This is getting silly.

[Walter]

Only if you make up a name completely and utterly unlike that of said presenter.

But close enough so we all know who you mean, though. Obviously.

actually I've said too much already , just forget it !

[Nearly Sane]

I have a 'story' about a current radio 2 presenter , do you think I should tell it?

I have no idea why you think that relevant or significant to the discussion. If you think the sexual harassment/assault that you have information on is serious, I would hope you and/or person involved would now report it

[Shaker]

actually I've said too much already , just forget it !

No chance!

[Walter]

I have no idea why you think that relevant or significant to the discussion.

you are right , sorry , I typed before thinking

If you think the sexual harassment/assault that you have information on is serious, I would hope you and/or person involved would now report it

person did not want to be involved !

let's just leave it at that

[Humph Warden Bennett]

At the 1976 Xmas Party of Orpington College, Kent,  held at the Anchor & Hope public house , down the road, I asked Tracey X if she would kiss me under the mistletoe. She blushed, shook her head, and then her friend, Liz Y, told her "Go on and kiss him".

If I were an MP now, both Liz and I would be in trouble. This is getting silly.

The following year, December 1977, I kissed Ruth Levi, and then Denise O'Callahan. Then Debbie West.

Am I supposed to beat myself up?

[Nearly Sane]

The following year, December 1977, I kissed Ruth Levi, and then Denise O'Callahan. Then Debbie West.

Am I supposed to beat myself up?

Is this equivalent to what Harvey Weinstein is accused of? Is it the same as a boss calling a female employee sugar tits or sending her to buy sex toys?

[floo]

The following year, December 1977, I kissed Ruth Levi, and then Denise O'Callahan. Then Debbie West.

Am I supposed to beat myself up?

Not in the same league at all as the Harvey Weinstein saga, or the totally inappropriate behaviour to which that MP has admitted perpetrating.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Ask Robinson.

[Nearly Sane]

Ask Robinson.

Why should Robinson be asked about your posts?

[Humph Warden Bennett]

She was there too.