Sexual Abuse and Prominent People

[jeremyp]

I expect, when I was twenty two I said lots of things that I would find embarrassing at the very least now. Fortunately, back then we didn't publish everything we said to the World in a stream of consciousness - it was impossible to do that.

I count myself very lucky that Facebook didn't exist when I was young, otherwise I might never be able to get a job.

[Nearly Sane]

I expect, when I was twenty two I said lots of things that I would find embarrassing at the very least now. Fortunately, back then we didn't publish everything we said to the World in a stream of consciousness - it was impossible to do that.

I count myself very lucky that Facebook didn't exist when I was young, otherwise I might never be able to get a job.

Ditto

[Shaker]

For crying out loud: http://tinyurl.com/y836pqw3

[Shaker]

It's all happening toneet: http://tinyurl.com/y74fndtc

[Nearly Sane]

So Michael Fallon has gone. Presumably not because of the Julia Hartley Brewer nonsense.

https://politicalscrapbook.net/2015/09/camerons-comedy-cabinet-of-incompetents-michael-fallon/

[Gordon]

Moderator:

This thread merges the separate but overlapping threads on Weinstein, O'Mara and Spacey - especially now that other people are implicated.

[Rhiannon]

So Michael Fallon has gone. Presumably not because of the Julia Hartley Brewer nonsense.

https://politicalscrapbook.net/2015/09/camerons-comedy-cabinet-of-incompetents-michael-fallon/

BBC says not, although maybe it is a guilty conscience on his part. If it really is just down to a few incidents of knee touching then I despair.

[Walter]

BBC says not, although maybe it is a guilty conscience on his part. If it really is just down to a few incidents of knee touching then I despair.

Rhi , I am quickly reviewing my whole working life in fear of anything I may have inadvertandly done which might be considered unacceptable   Up to now I can't think of anything   
However I did make advances to one woman , we became a couple of 14 years and had a child together .
It could have all gone wrong and could now be faceing charges instead of a financial separation settlement !

[Nearly Sane]

Fallon's interview quite bizarre, talks about 'the behaviour' not his behaviour. Says things that were acceptable 10 years ago, aren't now. Was groping and harassment acceptable 10 years ago, not from my viewpoint, Michael.

[Anchorman]

Fallon's interview quite bizarre, talks about 'the behaviour' not his behaviour. Says things that were acceptable 10 years ago, aren't now. Was groping and harassment acceptable 10 years ago, not from my viewpoint, Michael.

Agreed on the bizarre bit.
However, on what we know this isn't a resignation matter (not that I'm devastated, heartbroken and bereft that a Tory has bi the dust).
Whether he is using this to mask his feelings over the HMS Vigilant affair, or whether there are more revelations to come, i have no idea - but this seems the most strange resignation of modern times.

[Rhiannon]

I wondered if his brief has become too much for him but he doesn't strike me as that sort. It can only be that there is darker stuff that is hidden. Otherwise it is an insult to those who have been genuinely the victims of predators in the HoP and it trivialises the whole thing.

[floo]

I see Fallon has resigned!

[Shaker]

I wondered if his brief has become too much for him but he doesn't strike me as that sort. It can only be that there is darker stuff that is hidden.

This was as good as stated explicitly by a journalist interviewed on the steam-powered wireless last night - Fallon jumped rather than was pushed because (mixing my metronomes, admittedly) there's a can of worms yet to be opened and he felt it prudent to decamp early.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

I agree others comments, there must be some nastier dirt to be dished. Worth remembering that Julia is a Tory & Brexit supporter, that may be why she was trying to minimalise the issue.

This will infuriate him, being linked with Swanley, rather than with Sevenoaks!

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/dartford_swanley/15635730.Swanley_MP_Michael_Fallon_quits_as_defence_secretary_following_allegations_of_inappropriate_behaviour/

[Rhiannon]

If all Julia knows of is the ‘incident’ that happened to her there’s nothing to minimise - it’s a nonsense.

[Walter]

If all Julia knows of is the ‘incident’ that happened to her there’s nothing to minimise - it’s a nonsense.

''If this is over kneegate, him touching my knee 15 years ago and me not having any issue with it today, this is the most insane, absurd and ridiculous resignation of a cabinet minister ever," she told sky news

Julia Hartlley-Brewer

[floo]

This was as good as stated explicitly by a journalist interviewed on the steam-powered wireless last night - Fallon jumped rather than was pushed because (mixing my metronomes, admittedly) there's a can of worms yet to be opened and he felt it prudent to decamp early.

I suspect Fallon would not have resigned if the knee touching had been his only indiscretion.

[wigginhall]

I suppose now we will not be informed about why Fallon resigned.   It's much better if we don't know, isn't it, since politicians know best about these things?

[Nearly Sane]

''If this is over kneegate, him touching my knee 15 years ago and me not having any issue with it today, this is the most insane, absurd and ridiculous resignation of a cabinet minister ever," she told sky news

Julia Hartlley-Brewer

and she knows it isn't. So why create the idea that she doesn't know that?

[Walter]

and she knows it isn't. So why create the idea that she doesn't know that?

are you asking me?

[Nearly Sane]

are you asking me?

It was rhetorical.

[Walter]

It was rhetorical.

isn't that one of them little round rowing boats for crossing rivers?

[Harrowby Hall]

I wasn't listening properly, but did I hear on the radio this morning (I think) mention of "a spreadsheet" compiled by someone of alleged personal infringements by people within the Palace of Westminster?

[Nearly Sane]

I wasn't listening properly, but did I hear on the radio this morning (I think) mention of "a spreadsheet" compiled by someone of alleged personal infringements by people within the Palace of Westminster?

Yes, you did. it's easily accessible on the net, of extremely doubtful provenance and very very odd in what it includes and who it doesn't. It applies to Tories rather than being cross party.

[Anchorman]

....and there's more...on t'other side...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41853430