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Re: Sexual Abuse and Prominent People
« Reply #200 on: November 05, 2017, 06:20:36 PM »
And Floo why so vocal anout Corbyn but nary a word about May. She will have known about the dirty secrets her whips used to keep people in line. Or are you really as stupidly partisan as you sound.

I prefer May to Corbyn, even if she is not doing a brilliant job. It may surprise you to know that I vote for our local Labour MP. Having met him when he visited us at our request some years ago, I was impressed by him.
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« Reply #201 on: November 05, 2017, 06:31:30 PM »
I prefer May to Corbyn, even if she is not doing a brilliant job. It may surprise you to know that I vote for our local Labour MP. Having met him when he visited us at our request some years ago, I was impressed by him.

Why should it surprise anyone that you voted for someone whom you considered would best represent your interests? This action is central to the British concept of representative democracy - we vote for individuals not for parties.

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« Reply #202 on: November 05, 2017, 06:35:36 PM »
Why should it surprise anyone that you voted for someone whom you considered would best represent your interests? This action is central to the British concept of representative democracy - we vote for individuals not for parties.

... I enjoyed my brief visit to Cloud Cuckoo Land ...

I vote for the person I consider the best candidate, not the party. My husband and I often vote for different candidates.

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« Reply #203 on: November 05, 2017, 07:46:24 PM »
I vote for the person I consider the best candidate, not the party. My husband and I often vote for different candidates.
Best candidate as constituency MP or best candidate for PM?

And are they not related to preference for a party - given that the candidate stands on the platform of the party's manifesto.

Would you, for example, vote for a local candidate who is very good as an MP but whose party has policies that you fundamentally disagree with.

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« Reply #204 on: November 05, 2017, 08:22:17 PM »
Best candidate as constituency MP or best candidate for PM?

And are they not related to preference for a party - given that the candidate stands on the platform of the party's manifesto.

Would you, for example, vote for a local candidate who is very good as an MP but whose party has policies that you fundamentally disagree with.
Would you vote for a candidate who is a complete areshole yet stands for the party which most closely aligns with your political views?
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« Reply #205 on: November 06, 2017, 08:27:12 AM »
Best candidate as constituency MP or best candidate for PM?

And are they not related to preference for a party - given that the candidate stands on the platform of the party's manifesto.

Would you, for example, vote for a local candidate who is very good as an MP but whose party has policies that you fundamentally disagree with.

A party with policies with which I fundamentally disagree, like the nasty UKIP, would never have an MP whose views I could respect.

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« Reply #206 on: November 06, 2017, 08:37:30 AM »
So we’ve managed to deflect away from sex abuse and harassment again.

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« Reply #207 on: November 06, 2017, 08:52:25 AM »
So we’ve managed to deflect away from sex abuse and harassment again.
perhaps people are fed up with the subject or the problem's gone away?

floo

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« Reply #208 on: November 06, 2017, 08:55:06 AM »
perhaps people are fed up with the subject or the problem's gone away?

NOT FUNNY! >:(

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« Reply #209 on: November 06, 2017, 09:05:05 AM »
NOT FUNNY! >:(
did you see the question mark at the end?   

floo

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« Reply #210 on: November 07, 2017, 01:31:03 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161

A Welsh Labour AM member, who was sacked last week, for improper conduct has just died!

Rhiannon

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« Reply #211 on: November 07, 2017, 01:35:48 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161

A Welsh Labour AM member, who was sacked last week, for improper conduct has just died!

Terribly sad.  :(

floo

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« Reply #212 on: November 07, 2017, 02:12:49 PM »
It is now thought Carl Sargeant committed suicide.

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« Reply #213 on: November 07, 2017, 02:17:52 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161

A Welsh Labour AM member, who was sacked last week, for improper conduct has just died!
Just to note it was allegations which he denied and which there was going to be investigation of.

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« Reply #214 on: November 07, 2017, 02:34:50 PM »
Just to note it was allegations which he denied and which there was going to be investigation of.

If his death was suicide, it looks as if he had a case to answer.

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« Reply #215 on: November 07, 2017, 02:35:45 PM »
If his death was suicide, it looks as if he had a case to answer.

You are wrong there. It's possible to feel utter despair as an innocent person.

floo

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« Reply #216 on: November 07, 2017, 02:36:06 PM »
You are wrong there. It's possible to feel utter despair as an innocent person.

Hmmmmmmm! He was sacked so I assume the case against him was pretty damning.

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« Reply #217 on: November 07, 2017, 02:37:23 PM »
If his death was suicide, it looks as if he had a case to answer.
Which doesn't make your claim that he was sacked for 'improper conduct' correct. And I think given the circumstances, you might want not to jump to conclusions.

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« Reply #218 on: November 07, 2017, 02:38:14 PM »
Hmmmmmmm! He was sacked so I assume the case against him was pretty damning.
The plaintiff is in court, so he must be guilty.

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« Reply #219 on: November 07, 2017, 02:40:23 PM »
The plaintiff is in court, so he must be guilty.

Well hopefully the enquiry will discover the truth of the matter.

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« Reply #220 on: November 07, 2017, 02:44:34 PM »
Well hopefully the enquiry will discover the truth of the matter.
that would be good, rather than you posting something  incorrect that stated he was guilty.

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« Reply #221 on: November 07, 2017, 02:45:25 PM »
that would be good, rather than you posting something  incorrect that stayed he was guilty.

Well we shall see.

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« Reply #222 on: November 07, 2017, 02:46:22 PM »
Well we shall see.
We already have seen. You stated he was sacked for improper conduct rather than allegations of such.

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« Reply #223 on: November 07, 2017, 02:50:08 PM »
If his death was suicide, it looks as if he had a case to answer.
... and if the woman sinks and drowns, it looks as though she was innocent of witchcraft  ::)
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« Reply #224 on: November 07, 2017, 03:07:14 PM »
Hmmmmmmm! He was sacked so I assume the case against him was pretty damning.

No. He was sacked while investigations happened. Clearly he couldn’t continue on his ministerial role while that was happening.