'Western philosophy is racist'

[Shaker]

I'm sure that when Eastern philosophy has anything worthwhile to say, it is listened to in the West.

What makes you think it isn't already? 

[Walter]

So the Tao te Ching is a load of bollocks then?

I mean, clearly you've read it. You wouldn't be making such a sweeping statement on something you've no knowledge of.

woman who cooks ham and peas in same pot ----dirty bitch !

[SteveH]

Do you think it has nothing to teach anyone? You said nothing worthwhile has come from Eastern philosophy.

No, I didn't.

[Sriram]

I suspect, Sriram, that it may be more the case that spirituality/religion will become progressively irrelevant and that any apparent conflict with science and technology will only concern those who subscribe to spirituality/religion. In those areas where religion is still influential it will take longer, but in areas like here in Scotland it is already the case that religious views aren't authoritative across society at large.

This is another example of fragmented thinking.   Why is it always Spirituality OR Science?!  Why should one give way to the other? This is typical Western thinking....

This is because  people in the West  have this divisive and dissecting way of thinking. What I have called the Zoom-In mind set. In the East people have a Zoom -Out mindset which is naturally inclusive and integrative. It is a mindset issue.....the way the brain is probably wired.

https://tsriramrao.wordpress.com/2016/04/28/zoom-in-zoom-out/

I concede that the Zoom-In mindset has resulted in most of Science and Technology. But it is not meant for Philosophy.   

With more and more people from the East becoming prominent and influencing world philosophies, an integrative approach is more likely to be the future. 

[Gordon]

This is another example of fragmented thinking.   Why is it always Spirituality OR Science?!  Why should one give way to the other? This is typical Western thinking....

This is because  people in the West  have this divisive and dissecting way of thinking. What I have called the Zoom-In mind set. In the East people have a Zoom -Out mindset which is naturally inclusive and integrative. It is a mindset issue.....the way the brain is probably wired.

https://tsriramrao.wordpress.com/2016/04/28/zoom-in-zoom-out/

I concede that the Zoom-In mindset has resulted in most of Science and Technology. But it is not meant for Philosophy.   

With more and more people from the East becoming prominent and influencing world philosophies, an integrative approach is more likely to be the future.

It isn't 'spirituality or science' for me though: I don't see that 'spirituality' is anything other than just what some people think, and as far as I can see 'spirituality' is far too woolly to represent a distinct philosophical perspective - especially where it comes across as being woo dressed up as profundity.

If it is abstract thinking on a macro rather than micro level then that is quite possible without adding a 'spiritual' label.

[Walter]

This is another example of fragmented thinking.   Why is it always Spirituality OR Science?!  Why should one give way to the other? This is typical Western thinking....

This is because  people in the West  have this divisive and dissecting way of thinking. What I have called the Zoom-In mind set. In the East people have a Zoom -Out mindset which is naturally inclusive and integrative. It is a mindset issue.....the way the brain is probably wired.

https://tsriramrao.wordpress.com/2016/04/28/zoom-in-zoom-out/

I concede that the Zoom-In mindset has resulted in most of Science and Technology. But it is not meant for Philosophy.   

With more and more people from the East becoming prominent and influencing world philosophies, an integrative approach is more likely to be the future.

HI Sriram

I'm interested to know what your thoughts are regarding Deepak Chopra , the public speaker and advocate of alternative medicine

[ekim]

It isn't 'spirituality or science' for me though: I don't see that 'spirituality' is anything other than just what some people think, and as far as I can see 'spirituality' is far too woolly to represent a distinct philosophical perspective - especially where it comes across as being woo dressed up as profundity.

Ancient Chinese saying:  Do not despise the woolly for who is to say it will not be fashioned into a cardigan which will give warmth to all who wear it.

[Sriram]

HI Sriram

I'm interested to know what your thoughts are regarding Deepak Chopra , the public speaker and advocate of alternative medicine

He lives somewhere in California, is a qualified endocrinologist and was a friend of the Beatles. He also does some research on Ayurveda. I don't know much more than that about him.

What you might consider as 'Alternative Medicine' is not 'alternative' for 1.3 billion people in India. It is the main system of medicine for a large section of the  population.   Most Indians, even the urban educated and rich elite, use Ayurveda for at least some of their ailments. 

In fact, the use of Ayurveda which had gone down dramatically during the 1960' to 1990's is now growing exponentially.  There are now more young qualified practitioners than every before. The Govt. is also directly working on research, documentation, certification and so on.

[Walter]

He lives somewhere in California, is a qualified endocrinologist and was a friend of the Beatles. He also does some research on Ayurveda. I don't know much more than that about him.

What you might consider as 'Alternative Medicine' is not 'alternative' for 1.3 billion people in India. It is the main system of medicine for a large section of the  population.   Most Indians, even the urban educated and rich elite, use Ayurveda for at least some of their ailments. 

In fact, the use of Ayurveda which had gone down dramatically during the 1960' to 1990's is now growing exponentially.  There are now more young qualified practitioners than every before. The Govt. is also directly working on research, documentation, certification and so on.

okay thanks for that.

[Rhiannon]

Unlike most people who dismiss Chopra's stuff as utter shit I've actually read some of it.

It's utter shit.

[Nearly Sane]

Unlike most people who dismiss Chopra's stuff as utter shit I've actually read some of it.

It's utter shit.

http://www.wisdomofchopra.com

[Walter]

http://www.wisdomofchopra.com

love that link
It reminds me of the meanings of the clues in Ted Rogers 3 2 1
Family quiz show , classic !

[Walter]

Unlike most people who dismiss Chopra's stuff as utter shit I've actually read some of it.

It's utter shit.

fantastic , hahahah ! 😂👍

[Walter]

This is another example of fragmented thinking.   Why is it always Spirituality OR Science?!  Why should one give way to the other? This is typical Western thinking....

This is because  people in the West  have this divisive and dissecting way of thinking. What I have called the Zoom-In mind set. In the East people have a Zoom -Out mindset which is naturally inclusive and integrative. It is a mindset issue.....the way the brain is probably wired.

https://tsriramrao.wordpress.com/2016/04/28/zoom-in-zoom-out/

I concede that the Zoom-In mindset has resulted in most of Science and Technology. But it is not meant for Philosophy.   

With more and more people from the East becoming prominent and influencing world philosophies, an integrative approach is more likely to be the future.

Hi Sriram, have a look at this

https://youtu.be/OTVWMY8EZCA

[Sriram]

Hi Sriram, have a look at this

https://youtu.be/OTVWMY8EZCA

Hi Walter...

Sigh...! You are lumping in Spirituality with 'Magnet Man' and such things...?!!!

Long way to go...Walter! 

[Walter]

Hi Walter...

Sigh...! You are lumping in Spirituality with 'Magnet Man' and such things...?!!!

Long way to go...Walter! 

ahh! you crack me up .

[Nearly Sane]

love that link
It reminds me of the meanings of the clues in Ted Rogers 3 2 1
Family quiz show , classic !

Brilliant show, Ted Rogers explaining the clues that make Heidegger look like a nursery rhyme. It may have been a new form of philosophy.


'My first is in cartilaginous
But the artichoke cannot hold
King David is a dancing
And so the story unfolds'

[Rhiannon]

Brilliant show, Ted Rogers explaining the clues that make Heidegger look like a nursery rhyme. It may have been a new form of philosophy.


'My first is in cartilaginous
But the artichoke cannot hold
King David is a dancing
And so the story unfolds'

Challenge has this on late at night. I thought it’d be worth a look until I remembered it had ‘celebrity’ acts - in this case a racist comedian, some out of time dancers and (I think) Tony Christie.

[Nearly Sane]

Challenge has this on late at night. I thought it’d be worth a look until I remembered it had ‘celebrity’ acts - in this case a racist comedian, some out of time dancers and (I think) Tony Christie.

To watch it you need the right drugs.  It is quite possibly the weirdest show ever made. I think when Plato talks about the shadows on the cave wall, this is what was the 'form'

[SteveH]

Brilliant show, Ted Rogers explaining the clues that make Heidegger look like a nursery rhyme. It may have been a new form of philosophy.


'My first is in cartilaginous
But the artichoke cannot hold
King David is a dancing
And so the story unfolds'

I believe 321 was originally French. If so, much is explained.

[Walter]

To watch it you need the right drugs.  It is quite possibly the weirdest show ever made. I think when Plato talks about the shadows on the cave wall, this is what was the 'form'

I think i was one of those who could only wonder at the shadows until one day while working for a news paper i met the bloke who made the various incarnations of Dusty Bin and was given a tour of his workshop including a demonstration of a working Dusty.

It was only then I saw the light. The shadows disappeared and all was well with the world

[Dicky Underpants]

Unlike most people who dismiss Chopra's stuff as utter shit I've actually read some of it.

It's utter shit.