Will failure be tolerated in UK politics - or not?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Surely May has been allowed to continue through too many Crises. There are no good messages here. In view of the current situation being so far reaching May should resign and they should suspend Brexit. 

[SteveH]

They should suspend May. Where's Mr Pierrepoint when you need him?

[Gordon]

Surely May has been allowed to continue through too many Crises. There are no good messages here. In view of the current situation being so far reaching May should resign and they should suspend Brexit.

Yikes, Vlad - I agree with you - as long as the latter is done democratically. 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Yikes, Vlad - I agree with you 

You'd better lie down. Is there anyone responsible to keep an eye on you?

[Nearly Sane]

Surely May has been allowed to continue through too many Crises. There are no good messages here. In view of the current situation being so far reaching May should resign and they should suspend Brexit.

what 'current situation'?

[Gordon]

You'd better lie down. Is there anyone responsible to keep an eye on you?

Mrs G is here: she looks unconcerned at the moment.

[Shaker]

Surely May has been allowed to continue through too many Crises. There are no good messages here. In view of the current situation being so far reaching May should resign and they should suspend Brexit.

I'm not seeing the linkage between implementing the decision of a referendum and getting a new prime minister. To me they seem two entirely discrete things.

[Aruntraveller]

I'm not seeing the linkage between implementing the decision of a referendum and getting a new prime minister. To me they seem two entirely discrete things.

Well she can't be trusted with anything is the main reason. Even though I don't want BREXIT but as it's going to happen we do need someone half competent at the helm. The further problem with this is that I don't see anyone more competent waiting to take over. Basically we are stuffed.

[Shaker]

Well she can't be trusted with anything is the main reason. Even though I don't want BREXIT but as it's going to happen we do need someone half competent at the helm.

Well, yes, but that was my point - Vlad seemed to argue that getting a new PM was itself sufficient reason for halting Brexit.

[Aruntraveller]

Well, yes, but that was my point - Vlad seemed to argue that getting a new PM was itself sufficient reason for halting Brexit.

Oh sorry - yes I see. Well that's not going to happen whether the leader is changed or not.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I'm not seeing the linkage between implementing the decision of a referendum and getting a new prime minister. To me they seem two entirely discrete things.

It's obvious that Brexit is too big a job for a government and is either the cause of everything going to pot or a symptom of it. How not up to the job of prime minister does someone have to be?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

what 'current situation'?

Alleged Government and governing party sleaze.

[Sebastian Toe]

It's obvious that Brexit is too big a job for a government and is either the cause of everything going to pot or a symptom of it. How not up to the job of prime minister does someone have to be?

From the available valid candidates who do you think would be best suited for the job?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

From the available valid candidates who do you think would be best suited for the job?

Not a brexiter and nobody whose lusts has been in the spotlight or is likely to.

[Nearly Sane]

Alleged Government and governing party sleaze.

I don't get what you mean by alleged govt but if the crisis you are talking about is in relation to the sexual harassment and abuse charges - it's not govt, it's across party.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Surely May has been allowed to continue through too many Crises. There are no good messages here. In view of the current situation being so far reaching May should resign and they should suspend Brexit.

It's not up to us, or to the electorate, it's up to the men in grey suits. That's how Parliament works.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I don't get what you mean by alleged govt but if the crisis you are talking about is in relation to the sexual harassment and abuse charges - it's not govt, it's across party.

The other parties are not in Government. The POG has, because it was politically expedient to encourage the idiosyncratic behaviour of some of it's ministers has encouraged incontinence of the sleazy, the cheesy, The easy, The queezy, the breezy, the Lusty, The Dusty, the crusty, the shitstirry and probably that of Orwell's ''anti-sex league'' at Westminster. T May has no grip on this shambles.
You can bet on it that the first action will be to make the other parties sleaze the issue rather than fucking doing anything about it.

[Nearly Sane]

The other parties are not in Government. The POG has, because it was politically expedient to encourage the idiosyncratic behaviour of some of it's ministers has encouraged incontinence of the sleazy, the cheesy, The easy, The queezy, the breezy, the Lusty, The Dusty, the crusty, the shitstirry and probably that of Orwell's ''anti-sex league'' at Westminster. T May has no grip on this shambles.
You can bet on it that the first action will be to make the other parties sleaze the issue rather than fucking doing anything about it.

But obviously no one in previous govts or other parties has either. The fact that it is widespread make it a crisis of our political structures not this govt.   Your sentence about 'encouraging the idiosyncratic behaviour' is barely comprehensible and is where it can be understood a mere assertion that the Tories are somehow doing something worse than the other parties without any such evidence.

[Gordon]

Moderator:

The title of this thread, originally 'a crisis too far', has been changed after discussion with Vlad.

Under the original title members were posting comments about the current sexual abuse stories in this thread instead of in the thread (in this same Board) created for that: 'Sexual Abuse & Prominent People'.

http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=14656.msg702624#new

The aim in this thread is to discuss the overall competence, or otherwise, of UK political parties or politicians. 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Boris Johnsons gaffe may mean someone has her five year Jail sentence doubled. Time for him to resign.

[Harrowby Hall]

Boris Johnsons gaffe may mean someone has her five year Jail sentence doubled. Time for him to resign.

As has been observed in The Road to Downing St.

[floo]

Boris Johnsons gaffe may mean someone has her five year Jail sentence doubled. Time for him to resign.

If that is the case he should certainly resign.

[Nearly Sane]

Priti Patel's lack of precision or in other words lying.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41896756

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Priti Patel's lack of precision or in other words lying.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41896756

Patel is just another example of a minister out of control. May is evidently not in control and should resign

[Nearly Sane]

Patel is just another example of a minister out of control. May is evidently not in control and should resign

The press release covering her lying is astounding

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-from-international-development-secretary-priti-patel