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Re: Will failure be tolerated in UK politics - or not?
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2017, 12:33:35 PM »
ie. Is Corbyn prepared for another sudden election? Has he got a plan that people will vote for?

I doubt it. Mind you if he was prepared to scrap BREXIT, or at least have another referendum, I would be all for it.

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« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2017, 01:10:37 PM »
Allegations now that May knew full well. So looks like someone is trying to discredit the Prime Minister.
I think now is shit or bust time for the ambitions of Johnson and the Brexiting right.
Nearly Sane is right May or Patel.
Redwood has raised the proverbial head saying Patel was taken down by civil servants. The Brexit right have had a march stole from them by Nick Boles who has it seems the cunning plan for the Tory future.

The longer it takes Redwood, the Mogg, Patel et al to act the more irrelevant they become. Keunssberg seems to be backing for Boles and Patel and Others on the Brexit side have damaged the claim that Brexit equals patriotism.

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« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2017, 12:55:32 PM »
Redwood has raised the proverbial head saying Patel was taken down by civil servants. The Brexit right have had a march stole from them by Nick Boles who has it seems the cunning plan for the Tory future.

The longer it takes Redwood, the Mogg, Patel et al to act the more irrelevant they become. Keunssberg seems to be backing for Boles and Patel and Others on the Brexit side have damaged the claim that Brexit equals patriotism.
Gove and Johnson (Gohnson) have showed hand. Article on Redwood

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/british-lawmaker-advises-investors-to-take-their-money-out-of-the-uk/ar-BBETJwG?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp

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« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2017, 08:28:06 AM »
Surely May has been allowed to continue through too many Crises. There are no good messages here. In view of the current situation being so far reaching May should resign and they should suspend Brexit.

Brexit  must be completed. The people have voted and the peoples wishes were clear. Nothing else is acceptable but leaving the common market completely and for good.

May, I believe was just a way of showing a U turn to get people to keep Conservative in looking for an exit.
But the truth is that there should be NO further votes just a complete exit.
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« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2017, 08:29:16 AM »
Well she can't be trusted with anything is the main reason. Even though I don't want BREXIT but as it's going to happen we do need someone half competent at the helm. The further problem with this is that I don't see anyone more competent waiting to take over. Basically we are stuffed.

The fact we are where we are today just shows us they never made plans for an exit.
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« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2017, 08:34:59 AM »
Brexit  must be completed. The people have voted and the peoples wishes were clear. Nothing else is acceptable but leaving the common market completely and for good.

May, I believe was just a way of showing a U turn to get people to keep Conservative in looking for an exit.
But the truth is that there should be NO further votes just a complete exit.

Many people who voted to leave hadn't a clue what they were actually voting for, imo. I think we will be much worse off if we leave the EU.

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« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2017, 01:17:10 PM »
Brexit  must be completed. The people have voted and the peoples wishes were clear. Nothing else is acceptable but leaving the common market completely and for good.

Brexit must be stopped. Events since the people voted have shown that the whgleidea is a stupid waste of time and money.

Why are you so intent on destroying our country?
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« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2017, 02:44:30 PM »
Brexit must be stopped. Events since the people voted have shown that the whgleidea is a stupid waste of time and money.

The commons accounts committee has warned of paralysis in the south east and food rotting in lorries if there is insufficient staff and equipment at ports......investment so far is practically zero or there is no trade agreement.....I.e.hard Brexit.

This comes two days after May and Davis set the date. That is criminal.

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« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2017, 04:43:07 PM »
Rees Mogg is off the blocks. Promising huge Brexit dividend if regulation/employment rights and taxes for corporations slashed and Free Trade.

Problem is though how do you have free trade if you are paying tariffs.

Stanley Johnson will be blowing Boris's trumpet on I'm a celebrity.
We will all be going ''cor ain't Boris luverly'' within two weeks.

On the other hand i'm a celebrity gives the public the opportunity to make people eat Wombat's Balls. 

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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2017, 07:31:59 PM »
Oh dear,
I forsee things going back to partying like it's April 2017 again,
May standing up on her surfboard.
Tory unity dissent having been hammered.
Patel active.
Johnson and Gove.
Johnson doing his angry bull stare thing.
I expect to see the political cycle returning with the GBP giving them another five years in 2022 because that's what we do.
Mind you May IMHO was a bit spooked by Charley Elphicke. She tried to make light of his concerns over lack of provision at Borders and ports trying to frame it as a Dover only issue.

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Re: Will failure be tolerated in UK politics - or not?
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2017, 03:39:00 PM »
May still defying the odds by being utterly crap.
I think she might use the opportunity to walk away from being party leader and PM.
Looks like Damien Green in the interim.

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« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2017, 02:26:02 AM »
Rees Mogg is off the blocks. Promising huge Brexit dividend if regulation/employment rights and taxes for corporations slashed and Free Trade.


I'm sure there will be a huge dividend for people like him.
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« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2017, 05:07:58 PM »
Surely May has been allowed to continue through too many Crises. There are no good messages here. In view of the current situation being so far reaching May should resign and they should suspend Brexit.

No! they put a woman in power to yet again make her the scape goat. She should not resign and Brexit should go ahead.

The truth is no man has the backbone to stand up to the EU and she is the only one who has the guts to face and tell them as it is.
The women could do a better Job than the cowards hiding behind her skirt.
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« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2017, 06:08:42 PM »
No! they put a woman in power to yet again make her the scape goat.
You do realise that she put herself forward for the job!?
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« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2017, 06:27:19 PM »
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The truth is no man has the backbone to stand up to the EU

Yes because she's doing such a grand job that she's acquiesced to every demand made by the EU. She is in such a weak position as a result of the ill-advised election SHE called that she has to rely on the DUP for "support" who then pull the rug from under her at the first opportunity.

She shows no clear direction for a strategy to leave the EU and leaves us all open to a weakened country/countries with a failing economy only surviving because people here allow themselves to be fooled by the rhetoric around austerity and therefore have the second lowest increase in salaries in Europe.

Great job she's doing.

Wake up Sassy the woman's a fucking walking disaster for us.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2017, 06:53:52 PM »
You do realise that she put herself forward for the job!?
And her only competition was another woman because all the men in contention stabbed each other in the back
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Re: Will failure be tolerated in UK politics - or not?
« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2018, 09:33:27 PM »
Tolerated failures.

J Hunt T May NHS crisis
C Grayling taxpayers money for privatised railoperaters experiencing difficulty maintaining franchise statements
Carillion May Grayling and others
Channel Bridge suggestion in the climate defined by previous B deP Johnson

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Re: Will failure be tolerated in UK politics - or not?
« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2018, 08:06:59 AM »
Have had to sit down, Boris Johnson has come up with a good idea.

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« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2018, 12:32:22 PM »
Have had to sit down, Boris Johnson has come up with a good idea.

Stopped clock syndrome. Do not worry, it won't last.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.