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Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« on: November 06, 2017, 03:00:00 PM »
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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 03:00:56 PM »
He wasn't big on family, by all accounts.
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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 07:48:50 PM »
Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?

Why do you ask Floo? Is It important?

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 07:52:04 PM »
Whilst it is claimed Jesus appeared to his disciples after he supposedly resurrected, there is no suggestion he appeared to his mother. I wonder why that was?

I suspect him being dead is the answer to that one, Floo.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 07:54:23 PM »
She means after he was dead I presume, either in spirit or physical form or in a dream, whatever.
Floo we don't know he didn't, the Bible only gives accounts of what were considered to be essentials.
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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 07:59:06 PM »
She had a heart condition

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 08:52:08 AM »
she'd gone shopping when he came round.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2017, 11:11:59 AM »
She had a heart condition

Perhaps it was because he was the one with the heart condition. Either that, or he didn't want to be reminded that he had been a very naughty boy. ;)
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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2017, 01:38:31 PM »
Whilst it is claimed Jesus appeared to his disciples after he supposedly resurrected, there is no suggestion he appeared to his mother. I wonder why that was?

Assuming his mother was quite likely to have been among the many unnamed people to whom Jesus is said to have appeared: because the gospel writers wanted to make a point, and there didn't happen to be a reason to include his Mum.

For instance, Luke (ch.24) quotes Jesus as saying, "How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! 26Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?" Luke continues, "27And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself."

This suggests Luke intended to show that Jesus fulfilled prophecy.

He also wanted to show that Jesus' resurrection was a bodily one, not just a ghost or hallucination:

"37They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. 38He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? 39Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”

40When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. 41And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” 42They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43and he took it and ate it in their presence." (Luke 24)
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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2017, 01:44:52 PM »
If Jesus did come back from the dead, why didn't he stay down here instead of disappearing up to heaven? I have never had a sensible answer to that question, which makes it more than likely Jesus stayed dead when he died, and the gospel writers fabricated the story of his resurrection.

Because he came from heaven?

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2017, 01:52:48 PM »
Whilst it is claimed Jesus appeared to his disciples after he supposedly resurrected, there is no suggestion he appeared to his mother. I wonder why that was? You would have thought he would appear to his family first. It does seem that his family and those who knew him well weren't as impressed with him during his life as were his followers, I wonder why that was? Maybe they knew it was all make believe.


Mary the mother of Jesus knew his divinity. He did not need to prove it to her.

What was important was to prove it to others.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2017, 03:54:42 PM »
If the guy was divine it should have been obvious, it clearly wasn't, not to his family and those that knew him well.

I don't know why Catholics make a big song and dance about Mary, Jesus didn't seem to rate her much.

I am Orthodox, not RC. Ask one of them if they bother you that much.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2017, 03:59:32 PM »
I am Orthodox, not RC. Ask one of them if they bother you that much.
And also a Jewish person when going on about the OT God.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2017, 04:03:10 PM »
And also a Jewish person when going on about the OT God.
So Christians never invoke the OT then?

Such as when condemning homosexuality?
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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2017, 04:05:13 PM »
So Christians never invoke the OT then?

Such as when condemning homosexuality?

The Gospels quote the OT a great deal.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2017, 04:06:12 PM »
The Gospels quote the OT a great deal.
... then of course you get some Christians saying that the prophecies of the OT foretell Jesus.

IIRC Bashful Antony used to argue that Christianity was based on the NT alone, but in that I'm sure he was in a very small minority indeed.
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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2017, 04:06:55 PM »
Because he came from heaven?

That’s really quite sweet in a way.

Then I remember you are a grown up and this is the 21st century.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2017, 04:20:08 PM »
That’s really quite sweet in a way.

Then I remember you are a grown up and this is the 21st century.
Yes we are so wonderful in the 21st century aren't we.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2017, 04:55:27 PM »
Yes we are so wonderful in the 21st century aren't we.
I wouldn't be in another.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2017, 05:43:36 PM »
No he didn't he came out of his Mother's uterus!
But he didn't have a human father, so he must have come direct from heaven.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2017, 06:02:16 PM »
But he didn't have a human father, so he must have come direct from heaven.
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Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2017, 06:12:29 PM »
Other gay clubs are available.
This thread is turning into a comedy script  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2017, 06:16:07 PM »
Yes we are so wonderful in the 21st century aren't we.

Take your point, religiously motivated superstition is still terrorising the planet.

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2017, 06:21:08 PM »
can you hear me mother?

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Re: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2017, 06:24:05 PM »
Take your point, religiously motivated superstition is still terrorising the planet.
As much as global warming or antibiotic resistance?