Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother?

[Rhiannon]

As much as global warming or antibiotic resistance?

Yes, from some quarters.

And the shit we are in with climate change and ab resistance is because of misuse of resources. Not s superstitious belief that it’s What God Wants. Although you could argue that out attitude towards raping the planet had its origins in monotheistic thought.

[Sebastian Toe]

As much as global warming or antibiotic resistance?

Who cares about that shit, when there is the rapture to look forward to?

[jeremyp]

Mary the mother of Jesus knew his divinity. He did not need to prove it to her.

Why did she have such a hard time understanding what he did when he ran off to the Temple aged twelve then?

[jeremyp]

Who cares about that shit, when there is the rapture to look forward to?

A Blondie re-release?

[Nearly Sane]

Why did she have such a hard time understanding what he did when he ran off to the Temple aged twelve then?

He was meant to get the veg for dinner.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Who cares about that shit, when there is the rapture to look forward to?

The Rapture? Is that the name of Dawkins and Krauss's next world tour?

[SteveH]

Who says he didn't?

[Shaker]

Who says he didn't?

Uh oh ... 

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Why did she have such a hard time understanding what he did when he ran off to the Temple aged twelve then?

It was athe moment when she realised whom he really was. Think of the moment when a mother realises that her son's voice is breaking.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

A Blondie re-release?

Debbie Harry has said that she did not like the "rap" part which she felt spoiled the song.

Yes I know this is a derail.......

[Shaker]

It was athe moment when she realised whom he really was. Think of the moment when a mother realises that her son's voice is breaking.

Which is a pretty normal and natural occurrence that all but terminally stupid mothers are aware in advance will happen at some point.

Try again.

[Sebastian Toe]

The Rapture? Is that the name of Dawkins and Krauss's next world tour?

No.
This might be it though.

https://tinyurl.com/RaptureLessonsForVlad

Is there anything amiss with the content?

[jeremyp]

It was athe moment when she realised whom he really was. Think of the moment when a mother realises that her son's voice is breaking.

You men all the stuff with the angels and the gold, frankincense and myrrh didn't make the penny drop? She must have been as thick as two short planks.

[Rhiannon]

I bet his Dad and Mum gave him a hard time over that piece of precocious stupidity.

That’d be pretty shit parenting if they did.

[Rhiannon]

Ehhhhhh? My kids would have been grounded and had their privileges removed if they had pulled a stunt like that and rightly so.

So you think it’s advisable to stop children from learning from and debating with their elders?

Actually the bad parenting would be notvrealising he wasn’t with them. But it wouldn’t be fair to ground a child for the failings of the parent.

[jeremyp]

So you think it’s advisable to stop children from learning from and debating with their elders?

If your twelve year old went walk about without telling you where they were going, you'd presumably be pretty upset and maybe a bit angry (as well as relieved) when you found them again.

Actually the bad parenting would be notvrealising he wasn’t with them.

They had travelled for a day without realising Jesus was not with them. After that, it took them three days to find him.

But it wouldn’t be fair to ground a child for the failings of the parent.

I was made aware at a very young age (certainly less than twelve) that I did not go anywhere without telling my parents where I was going. If Jesus was under a similar admonishment, punishment was certainly required.

[Nearly Sane]

As I have previously mentioned I ran off to join the Pentecostal Church at the age of four on the promise of singing and cake, my parents were great about it, and we had an amicable discussion that should it happen again I should inform of my dalliances before hand.


For the record the singing was disappointing and the cake passable.

[Rhiannon]

If your twelve year old went walk about without telling you where they were going, you'd presumably be pretty upset and maybe a bit angry (as well as relieved) when you found them again.
They had travelled for a day without realising Jesus was not with them. After that, it took them three days to find him.
I was made aware at a very young age (certainly less than twelve) that I did not go anywhere without telling my parents where I was going. If Jesus was under a similar admonishment, punishment was certainly required.

As a parent I would feel mortified that I'd left them behind and I know my kids well enough to know that my distress would be more than enough 'punishment' - this is what happens in families where you care about each other (I did something in my teens that scared my parents - only did it once, their fear for me haunts me to this day - no punishment needed on top, trust me)) As for the rest, yes, I would want to make it into something constructive and build on their passion for learning.

[jeremyp]

As a parent I would feel mortified that I'd left them behind and I know my kids well enough to know that my distress would be more than enough 'punishment' - this is what happens in families where you care about each other (I did something in my teens that scared my parents - only did it once, their fear for me haunts me to this day - no punishment needed on top, trust me)) As for the rest, yes, I would want to make it into something constructive and build on their passion for learning.

Jesus buggered off for three days without telling his parents where he was going. My brother aged six once went to his friend's house instead of going home from school. My mum was in pieces for the hour it took to track him down. He got a very strong talking to as a result.

Jesus went awol for days. His parents must have been absolutely going through the ringer. I think k he deserved a good strong talking to as well.

[Dicky Underpants]

... then of course you get some Christians saying that the prophecies of the OT foretell Jesus.

IIRC Bashful Antony used to argue that Christianity was based on the NT alone, but in that I'm sure he was in a very small minority indeed.

And only the bits of the NT that he liked* - thus reducing his minority even further.

*Okay, maybe bits he thought were justified by 'scholarship'.

[Shaker]

Good point.

[Dicky Underpants]

Whilst it is claimed Jesus appeared to his disciples after he supposedly resurrected, there is no suggestion he appeared to his mother. I wonder why that was? You would have thought he would appear to his family first. It does seem that his family and those who knew him well weren't as impressed with him during his life as were his followers, I wonder why that was? Maybe they knew it was all make believe.

There is another question that interests me more, and that is why is he recorded as appearing to Mary Magdalen first (according to one gospel), and yet little is heard of her thereafter? Some apocryphal texts suggest that Peter and others got very upset that Jesus appeared to favour her all along, but no doubt the patriarchal elements in the society of the time made sure that Peter and James took over the show.

If she'd still been alive when Paul injected his take on the new religion, she'd have probably have fared better. I hope that such a suggestion still doesn't come as a shock to you.

[Dicky Underpants]

Why would she have fared better with Paul's take on it? He didn't seem to value women very highly.

I thought you might still be saying that. Read the end of Romans. He was nasty in many ways, but not a misogynist.

[Walter]

What about other verses attributed to Paul, which tell women to be subservient to their husbands and silent in church?

hmmmm?  there could be something in that

[SwordOfTheSpirit]

What about other verses attributed to Paul, which tell women to be subservient to their husbands ...

Citation needed.

Oh, by the way, regale us all about what Paul said about how husbands should treat their wives.