Author Topic: Why didn't Jesus appear to his mother? (Read 29586 times)

SwordOfTheSpirit · « **Reply #100 on:** February 20, 2018, 04:51:21 PM »

(emphasis mine)

Quote from: Steve H on February 18, 2018, 10:29:08 AM

I may have said this before on this thread - I can't be arsed to check - but who says he didn't? We're not specifically told that he did, but, as the man said, " And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written."

Saved me a post there! Great points.

Robbie · « **Reply #101 on:** February 20, 2018, 06:17:56 PM »

I thought the same.

I googled and found this:-
Who are the three Marys at the tomb?
At various points of Christian history, some of these women have been conflated with one another.
Mary, mother of Jesus.
Mary Magdalene.
Mary of Bethany (Luke 10:38–42; John 12:1–3)
Mary (mother of James the Less) (Matthew 27:56; Mark 15:40; Luke 24:10)
Mary of Cleopas (John 19:25)

SteveH · « **Reply #102 on:** February 20, 2018, 10:32:26 PM »

Quote from: SwordOfTheSpirit on February 20, 2018, 04:51:21 PM

(emphasis mine)Saved me a post there! Great points.

Glad you like it!

jeremyp · « **Reply #103 on:** February 24, 2018, 05:44:48 PM »

Quote from: Steve H on February 18, 2018, 10:29:08 AM

I may have said this before on this thread - I can't be arsed to check - but who says he didn't?

I say he didn't.

Jesus didn't appear to anybody after he was crucified because he was dead.

SteveH · « **Reply #104 on:** February 25, 2018, 01:30:38 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on February 24, 2018, 05:44:48 PM

I say he didn't.

Jesus didn't appear to anybody after he was crucified because he was dead.

Well, over 200 people suffered a mass hallucination at the same time, then.

Walter · « **Reply #105 on:** February 25, 2018, 01:52:56 PM »

Quote from: Steve H on February 25, 2018, 01:30:38 PM

Well, over 200 people suffered a mass hallucination at the same time, then.

just because its written in a book called the bible doesn't mean it actually happened you know.

SteveH · « **Reply #106 on:** February 25, 2018, 02:35:23 PM »

Quote from: Walter on February 25, 2018, 01:52:56 PM

just because its written in a book called the bible doesn't mean it actually happened you know.

I quite agree, and there's plenty in the Bible I don't accept. However, Paul said that the risen Christ had appeared to a crowd of over 200 on one occasion, and added that most of them were still alive, implying that if anyone didn't believe him, they could go and ask them. Still not hard-and-fast proof, of course.

Walter · « **Reply #107 on:** February 25, 2018, 06:19:15 PM »

Quote from: Steve H on February 25, 2018, 02:35:23 PM

I quite agree, and there's plenty in the Bible I don't accept. However, Paul said that the risen Christ had appeared to a crowd of over 200 on one occasion, and added that most of them were still alive, implying that if anyone didn't believe him, they could go and ask them. Still not hard-and-fast proof, of course.

I wouldn't take it as gospel either .

jeremyp · « **Reply #108 on:** February 25, 2018, 08:06:21 PM »

Quote from: Steve H on February 25, 2018, 01:30:38 PM

Well, over 200 people suffered a mass hallucination at the same time, then.

Or Paul made them up.

It's 500 btw.

jeremyp · « **Reply #109 on:** February 25, 2018, 08:10:31 PM »

Quote from: Steve H on February 25, 2018, 02:35:23 PM

implying that if anyone didn't believe him, they could go and ask them. Still not hard-and-fast proof, of course.

Well they couldn't could they because Paul doesn't identify any of them.

By the way, 501 people saw me beat Roger Federer at tennis at my local tennis club last week.

SteveH · « **Reply #110 on:** February 26, 2018, 01:36:34 PM »

Quote from: Walter on February 25, 2018, 06:19:15 PM

I wouldn't take it as gospel either .

Well, since it isn't in the gospels, you would be quite right not to.
Jeremyp - so it is. I wonder why I thought it was 200.

Sassy · « **Reply #111 on:** March 08, 2018, 03:14:50 AM »

In the great scheme of things, I fail to see what relevance Jesus appearing to his mother really has?

It would appear that if he was with the disciples and others, then at some point Mary must of seen the risen Jesus.

As all were lead by the Spirit and accepted Jesus had risen, I fail to see any relevance as to why it would be of important.

Anchorman · « **Reply #112 on:** March 08, 2018, 09:14:33 AM »

Quote from: Sassy on March 08, 2018, 03:14:50 AM

In the great scheme of things, I fail to see what relevance Jesus appearing to his mother really has? It would appear that if he was with the disciples and others, then at some point Mary must of seen the risen Jesus. As all were lead by the Spirit and accepted Jesus had risen, I fail to see any relevance as to why it would be of important.

I'd agree with Sass here. (Don't faint, Sass!) Mary was chosen for a very specific role - a role in which she ws unique, and blessed - See Luke. That role ended. At Calvary, Mary was a grieving mother, no more, no less - and all the more heartbreaking for that. She was an 'ordinary' believer after that; there was no need for specific one-on-one relvelation. We are not told whether she was with the disciples at the other occasions when the Lord appeared - because parchment was expensive in those days, and only the relevent facts were written down.

SteveH · « **Reply #113 on:** March 08, 2018, 01:53:26 PM »

Quote from: Sassy on March 08, 2018, 03:14:50 AM

must of seen .

HAVE!

jeremyp · « **Reply #114 on:** March 08, 2018, 06:04:18 PM »

Quote from: Steve H on February 26, 2018, 01:36:34 PM

Well, since it isn't in the gospels, you would be quite right not to.
Jeremyp - so it is. I wonder why I thought it was 200.

Still waiting for your congratulations. It was a pretty hard match.

SteveH · « **Reply #115 on:** March 09, 2018, 10:04:35 AM »

Quote from: jeremyp on March 08, 2018, 06:04:18 PM

Still waiting for your congratulations. It was a pretty hard match.

That would be Roger Federer (68), retired accountant, from 35, Sebastopol Terrace, Cheam, I take it...

SteveH · « **Reply #116 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:13:56 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on March 09, 2018, 02:01:13 PM

As Mary was the mother of Jesus, surely appearing to her first would have been the decent thing to do.

As has previously been asked on this thread, how do you know he didn't?

Anchorman · « **Reply #117 on:** March 09, 2018, 03:44:03 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on March 09, 2018, 02:01:13 PM

As Mary was the mother of Jesus, surely appearing to her first would have been the decent thing to do.

Why?

SteveH · « **Reply #118 on:** March 09, 2018, 05:25:06 PM »

Quote from: Anchorman on March 09, 2018, 03:44:03 PM

Why?

Because Littlenoses says so. She never misses an opportunity, however tenuous, to slag of God, Christ, or Christianity.

Anchorman · « **Reply #119 on:** March 09, 2018, 07:01:01 PM »

Quote from: Littleroses on March 09, 2018, 03:48:28 PM

Surely a parent comes before a bunch of sycophants?

Aren't you projecting your twenty-first century mindset onto the events of the first century?

Anchorman · « **Reply #120 on:** March 10, 2018, 09:30:54 AM »

Quote from: Littleroses on March 10, 2018, 08:49:54 AM

Please explain what you mean by that remark?

OK: I don't claim to know the mind of Christ, but, from ther Gospwel - if we are to accept it (and I do):
Jesus, on the Cross, had already surrrendered the care of His mother into the hands of John.
Thay was a bit out of the norm - becayse the child was responsible for the vare of a widowed mother in His day; His brothers (Joseph's sons, one of them would become the leader of the Jerusalem Church in time - were still arounf, but He chose John - perhaps because John was the only one who turned up.
That made Johm legally responsible for Mary's caere in Jewish law, tradition and custom - in eggect, CHrist was surrendering his relationship with his mother.
He knew what was ahead of Him, so in his agony, He dtill had time to get things done and dusted before the end-and the beginning.

SteveH · « **Reply #121 on:** March 10, 2018, 10:18:05 AM »

Quote from: Littleroses on March 09, 2018, 06:42:05 PM

YAWN!

Or to make one of her adolescent posts.

SteveH · « **Reply #122 on:** March 10, 2018, 11:26:40 AM »

Quote from: Littleroses on March 10, 2018, 11:24:02 AM

What evidence is there that John was his brother?

James. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James,_brother_of_Jesus

SteveH · « **Reply #123 on:** March 10, 2018, 11:38:52 AM »

Quote from: Littleroses on March 10, 2018, 11:29:38 AM

That is speculation not evidence.

The gospels call him the brother of Jesus. Unless you've got evidence that they were wrong, that is evidence.

BeRational · « **Reply #124 on:** March 10, 2018, 11:40:06 AM »

Quote from: Steve H on March 10, 2018, 11:38:52 AM

The gospels call him the brother of Jesus. Unless you've got evidence that they were wrong, that is evidence.

No, it's a claim.

Where is the evidence to support the claim?

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