Life after death

[floo]

Best for everyone if you stop at once though eh?
Otherwise people might talk! 

Are you jealous?

[Sebastian Toe]

Are you jealous?

You got it. I want you all for myself......

[floo]

You got it. I want you all for myself......

HELP, I am on the next spaceship to Mars to settle on my acre plot of land I own there!

[Walter]

For once I agree with you.

and me , wow!

[ippy]

I don't know what you are talking about.

That's exactly it!

Regards ippy

[ippy]

Can you prove you're alive now & then say what has 'gone' when we 'die'

Is a sound a sound if there's no one there to hear it, can't speak for anything after death, mind no one I know of has given an opinion on what it's like to be dead.

Regards ippy

[Sebastian Toe]

HELP, I am on the next spaceship to Mars to settle on my acre plot of land I own there!

If it is next to my acre then we could have a good time!

[Sriram]

Assertion without evidence.

Intelligence is a product of evolution, as is photosynthesis, as is mind, as is consciousness.  if evolution were a product of intelligence, then you end up with a circular infinite regress.

How can something be 'smart' without being intelligent.

You are assuming that Intelligence and mind are products of evolution. At one level they may be, but at another level they may be responsible for evolution.   If cars, planes, computers can evolve because of human Intelligence, why can't organisms evolve because of a Higher Intelligence? 

[Sriram]

We have found Dark Matter according to two teams last month - inter-galactic filaments of baryons :

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2149742-half-the-universes-missing-matter-has-just-been-finally-found/

Nobody has found Prana though; why ? because nobody is looking for it; why is nobody looking for it ? because it is a spurious, superfluous concept.

'Nobody is looking for it'....is right. And that is perhaps the problem.    Such things are automatically given the 'supernatural' label and  relegated to the 'No No' box.

[floo]

If it is next to my acre then we could have a good time!

Mine is the other side of the planet!

[Sebastian Toe]

Mine is the other side of the planet!

The other side of planet away from my acre do you mean?

[Walter]

'Nobody is looking for it'....is right. And that is perhaps the problem.    Such things are automatically given the 'supernatural' label and  relegated to the 'No No' box.

my ex had that printed on the front of her knickers!

[Sebastian Toe]

my ex had that printed on the front of her knickers!

"Nobody is looking for it"
Or
"No No Box"?

 

[floo]

The other side of planet away from my acre do you mean?

Well away, but if you decide to come visiting it is surrounded by death rays to ward off unwanted visitors, so be warned.

[Sebastian Toe]

Well away, but if you decide to come visiting it is surrounded by death rays to ward off unwanted visitors, so be warned.

I just want to know how you came by the location of my acre on Mars. Are you stalking me? 

[Walter]

"Nobody is looking for it"
Or
"No No Box"?

 

well , I was looking for it only to find the latter

[torridon]

How can something be 'smart' without being intelligent.

"Evolution is smarter than you" is not meant literally.  It's just a snappy way of expressing Orgel's profound insight that blind trial and error plus selection produces superior results over conscious, deliberate, intelligent design

[torridon]

You are assuming that Intelligence and mind are products of evolution. At one level they may be, but at another level they may be responsible for evolution.   If cars, planes, computers can evolve because of human Intelligence, why can't organisms evolve because of a Higher Intelligence?

See previous post.  Intelligence is inferior as a design mechanism to blind trial and error plus selection.

Intelligence as a first cause fails also because intelligence is derivative and implies or requires a broader context.  Contextless intelligence is meaningless.

[jeremyp]

"Evolution is smarter than you" is not meant literally.  It's just a snappy way of expressing Orgel's profound insight that blind trial and error plus selection produces superior results over conscious, deliberate, intelligent design

Are think that is only the case in fairly narrowly focused areas. Nobody would look at the recurrent laryngeal nerve and claim an intelligent designer couldn't do better.

[Walter]

Are think that is only the case in fairly narrowly focused areas. Nobody would look at the recurrent laryngeal nerve and claim an intelligent designer couldn't do better.

don't start with your bloody facts now !

[Shaker]

Are think that is only the case in fairly narrowly focused areas. Nobody would look at the recurrent laryngeal nerve and claim an intelligent designer couldn't do better.

Or the prostate gland. Or ... well; it's a long list.

[Walter]

Or the prostate gland. Or ... well; it's a long list.

yeah and our names are on it !

[Rhiannon]

An intelligent designer that imagined a birth process that can result in four degree perineal tearing would have to be a right bastard.

[Robbie]

Ouch!

[Rhiannon]

Ouch!

Not my personal experience. Had mine progressed as 'designed' my kids wouldn't have made it through childbirth and I may well not have done either. Luckily medicine has designed c-sections.