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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2017, 02:47:23 PM »
There have been other examples of this.

I don't know that I particularly have any stance on it as such. Calling it prostitution is one thing; but that's legal here, I believe it is in Germany and it certainly is in one US state.

The nub of it for me is the same here as it is elsewhere. Is she competent and consenting? She certainly seems to be. She seems highly intelligent and enterprising, actually. You could put a feminist argument that she's selling a commodity - her virginity - to the highest bidder and thus making herself a sellable object; but for one thing much of contemporary feminism isn't notably sex positive (and is blatantly hypocritical when it comes to sex work), and for another, surely that applies across the board to anybody who has to sell their time, skills and labour to earn a living.

I dunno. If she's comfortable and safe - genuinely so - have at it.
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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2017, 02:56:04 PM »

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2017, 02:57:30 PM »
It is prostitution, imo, how very tragic! :o
Does she think it's tragic?
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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2017, 03:37:24 PM »
Does she think it's tragic?

Maybe not at present, but could well live to regret it in later life.

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2017, 04:10:54 PM »
Maybe not at present, but could well live to regret it in later life.
for £2,million , I think it would be a distant memory ! plus she may enjoy the experience  WIN -WIN ?

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2017, 06:09:50 PM »
Maybe not at present, but could well live to regret it in later life.

With £2 million, I seriously doubt she is regretting it.
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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2017, 06:15:23 PM »
for £2,million , I think it would be a distant memory ! plus she may enjoy the experience  WIN -WIN ?
So had your daughter done this you would see it as a win win?

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2017, 06:25:16 PM »
Maybe not at present, but could well live to regret it in later life.

It’s really not uncommon to kick yourself over the first person you have sex with. £2 million might make it less cringey to look back on.

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 06:30:23 PM »
With £2 million, I seriously doubt she is regretting it.

There is more to life than money, like self respect.

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2017, 06:38:18 PM »
It’s really not uncommon to kick yourself over the first person you have sex with. £2 million might make it less cringey to look back on.
or more

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2017, 06:39:09 PM »
There is more to life than money, like self respect.
But the person may well have self respect and money here.

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2017, 06:41:23 PM »
There is more to life than money, like self respect.
Not everybody equates self respect with "not having sex."
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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2017, 06:42:43 PM »
So had your daughter done this you would see it as a win win?
of course I would , I'm not fucking mental !!!

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2017, 06:45:30 PM »
There is more to life than money, like self respect.
I would probably pay £2million NOT to have sex with you , thanks all the same

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2017, 06:48:05 PM »
of course I would , I'm not fucking mental !!!
Really? Your daughter auctions her virginity to a random rich person, and you would be cheering away on the sidelines?

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2017, 07:17:59 PM »
It’s really not uncommon to kick yourself over the first person you have sex with. £2 million might make it less cringey to look back on.


I agree! (She could disguise herself and sell it again if she's a good enough actress.)

From what I have read, many students sell themselves to pay for uni. When they graduate and are working they leave all that behind them.

If the experience is very unpleasant she might regret it but £2m will help.
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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2017, 07:19:22 PM »


I agree! (She could disguise herself and sell it again if she's a good enough actress.)

From what I have read, many students sell themselves to pay for uni. When they graduate and are working they leave all that behind them.

If the experience is very unpleasant she might regret it but £2m will help.

Or it will make it worse.

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2017, 07:21:28 PM »
Really? Your daughter auctions her virginity to a random rich person, and you would be cheering away on the sidelines?

'on the sidelines' ..... I'm not a freekin pervert Saney.

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2017, 07:27:30 PM »


I agree! (She could disguise herself and sell it again if she's a good enough actress.)
Or wearing tights, of course.
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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2017, 07:31:55 PM »
Or it will make it worse.

Depends how horrible it was and how able she is to put it down to experience and move on, everyone's different.
Lots of people have horrible sexual experiences when they're young and have nothing to show for it!

I was wondering what sort of man would pay £2m for a woman's virginity when he could probably get it for nothing and that is a creepy thought.
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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2017, 07:38:32 PM »
There is more to life than money, like self respect.

Yes but £2 million!

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2017, 08:40:56 PM »
The more I think about this, the more I wonder about the man who is paying and I have a mental picture of someone very strange indeed. I hope he's been thoroughly vetted and the agency has laid down strong guidelines.

This also elevates the state of virginity which is odd nowadays.  Maybe he is inadequate in some way and knows a virgin will have nothing with which to compare him.

Nevertheless £2m is not to be sneezed at.
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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2017, 08:46:44 PM »
The more I think about this, the more I wonder about the man who is paying and I have a mental picture of someone very strange indeed. I hope he's been thoroughly vetted and the agency has laid down strong guidelines.

This also elevates the state of virginity which is odd nowadays.  Maybe he is inadequate in some way and knows a virgin will have nothing with which to compare him.

Nevertheless £2m is not to be sneezed at.

It's not an uncommon fantasy though, is it, being the first? And this man is Arabic.

Throw is a stupid amount of money and it is as much about power as it is sex.

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Re: Is this a matter of ethics or morals or economics?
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2017, 08:47:20 PM »
Or it will make it worse.

Indeed. She won't know which until later.