Coalition talks fail in Germany

[Nearly Sane]

interesting times indeed.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42047532

[floo]

Very worrying as the far right mob are itching to take power!

[Nearly Sane]

So May could outlast Merkel.

[Walter]

Very worrying as the far right mob are itching to take power!

the far right have valid concerns , just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean you are right.

[Nearly Sane]

the far right have valid concerns , just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean you are right.

What concerns of the far right do you agree with?

[jeremyp]

the far right have valid concerns , just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean you are right.

I don't care if the far right have some valid concerns (what are they?), they are still pretty obnoxious and would cause serious damage to society if they ever got in power.

[Walter]

What concerns of the far right do you agree with?

I have no idea , I was making a point but feel free to jump on anything I say that you might be 'triggered' by.

[Nearly Sane]

I have no idea , I was making a point but feel free to jump on anything I say that you might be 'triggered' by.

I just asked you a question about your statement. That you have no idea about what you agree with the far right in Germany's concerns are having stated that you do, seems odd to talk about me being 'triggered'.

[Walter]

I just asked you a question about your statement. That you have no idea about what you agree with the far right in Germany's concerns are having stated that you do, seems odd to talk about me being 'triggered'.

where did I say that I agreed with any of their concerns ?

[Nearly Sane]

where did I say that I agreed with any of their concerns ?

When you said they had 'valid concerns'.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

interesting times indeed.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42047532

Possibly the FDP have taken note of the "reward" given by the UK electorate to the Lib Dems for doing the responsible thing in 2010?

[Walter]

When you said they had 'valid concerns'.

yes , they have valid concerns , I didn't say I valued them too . The concerns are theirs to value . The concerns do not belong to me . I do not own them . But I can observe !

saying that their concerns are wrong just because you don't like them is also wrong.

[floo]

the far right have valid concerns , just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean you are right.

What sort of valid concerns?

[Shaker]

What sort of valid concerns?

Following on from a discussion on LBC hosted by Maajid Nawaz the other day, don't pretty well all political systems share essentially the same concerns? The common good, a safe and stable society, prosperity and the like. People argue about politics not on the basis of the concerns, which seem to be more or less universal, but on the basis of the methods used to obtain them.

[Nearly Sane]

yes , they have valid concerns , I didn't say I valued them too . The concerns are theirs to value . The concerns do not belong to me . I do not own them . But I can observe !

saying that their concerns are wrong just because you don't like them is also wrong.

So if they are valid. i.e:  having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent, what of their concerns do you think are sound?

[Nearly Sane]

Following on from a discussion on LBC hosted by Maajid Nawaz the other day, don't pretty well all political systems share essentially the same concerns? The common good, a safe and stable society, prosperity and the like. People argue about politics not on the basis of the concerns, which seem to be more or less universal, but on the basis of the methods used to obtain them.

So since all concerns are valid, none are able to be declared valid as any validation.

[Nearly Sane]

Possibly the FDP have taken note of the "reward" given by the UK electorate to the Lib Dems for doing the responsible thing in 2010?

And that will help them how?

[Walter]

So if they are valid. i.e:  having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent, what of their concerns do you think are sound?

I haven't got a clue , I've already said that  , its not the concerns that are important here , its the fact that they have them that is .

If you are unable to understand then I apologise , I must not be explaining this right 

[Humph Warden Bennett]

And that will help them how?

Save them from anniliation when the next election comes round & they will be given the blame.

[Nearly Sane]

I haven't got a clue , I've already said that  , its not the concerns that are important here , its the fact that they have them that is .

If you are unable to understand then I apologise , I must not be explaining this right

So if you don't have a clue how to say they are 'valid' what does your statement that they are 'valid' mean?

[floo]

I haven't got a clue , I've already said that  , its not the concerns that are important here , its the fact that they have them that is .

If you are unable to understand then I apologise , I must not be explaining this right

If you haven't got a clue how do you know they are valid?

[Walter]

So if you don't have a clue how to say they are 'valid' what does your statement that they are 'valid' mean?

valid to THEM!

[Nearly Sane]

valid to THEM!

So Alan Burns arguments are valid. I.e. having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent?

[Walter]

So Alan Burns arguments are valid. I.e. having a sound basis in logic or fact; reasonable or cogent?

NO, because he deals in fairy tales  you have used a non sequitur there NS

[Nearly Sane]

NO, because he deals in fairy tales  you have used a non sequitur there NS

They are valid to him which was your position on judging far right arguments.