Dowsing

[Nearly Sane]

Yas.No. I've answered this one already. Whether the offer was significant (significant I assume you mean in terms of proper procedural scientific rigour) is as yet undetermined as there's insufficient evidence that it was or was not.I fear I can help you no further.Using a surname alone always strikes me as a trifle brusque.

And since the scientific rigour is underdetermined, you calling Le Page out on not accepting such an offer is based on your use of the NPF.


Why do you think referencing someone's sex and marital status is an avoidance of brusqueness?

[Shaker]

And since the scientific rigour is underdetermined, you calling Le Page out on not accepting such an offer is based on your use of the NPF.

Er, no. Since Sally Le Page started this whole brouhaha with her blog post, it seems reasonable to me to assume that when offered the chance to take part in a transparent experimental test, she would accept with alacrity. (Which she may have done; I'm unaware of it though).

Why do you think referencing someone's sex and marital status is an avoidance of brusqueness?

Because using someone's titles is politer than referring to them by their surname alone, which to me makes them sound as though they're about eleven and at a minor public school.

[Rhiannon]

We know that Le Page's preferred title is 'Miss' how, exactly?

Eta just had a quick look at her YouTube channel, excellent stuff.

[Shaker]

We know that Le Page's preferred title is 'Miss' how, exactly?

We don't. Or her preferred flavour of crisp.

[Nearly Sane]

Er, no. Since Sally Le Page started this whole brouhaha with her blog post, it seems reasonable to me to assume that when offered the chance to take part in a transparent experimental test, she would accept with alacrity. (Which she may have done; I'm unaware of it though).
Because using someone's titles is politer than referring to them by their surname alone, which to me makes them sound as though they're about eleven and at a minor public school.

So now not only are you using the NPF, you are openly admitting you have no idea what she did about thr offer which you have no idea if it was at all scientific and you are calling her out on it. Just wow.


And again i fail to see what her sex and marital status are useful here. It seems you want to refer to them to make you feel comfortable. How odd.

[Rhiannon]

We don't. Or her preferred flavour of crisp.

But you haven't attached a desire to eat the sin that is prawn cocktail flavour to her name. You have decided to emphasise her gender and marital status.

[Nearly Sane]

We don't. Or her preferred flavour of crisp.

So it's as useful in the context as saying 'Le Page, lover of Prawn Cocktail flavour'

[Shaker]

So now not only are you using the NPF

No, that's very much just you thinking so, again.

you are openly admitting you have no idea what she did about thr offer which you have no idea if it was at all scientific

Both of which I've said.

and you are calling her out on it. Just wow.

Called out? I haven't asked her out for a scrap in the car park or anything.

And again i fail to see what her sex and marital status are useful here. It seems you want to refer to them to make you feel comfortable. How odd.

Your insistence that I've deployed the negative proof fallacy is deeply odd but it seems to keep you amused of a cold winter's morning.

[Shaker]

But you haven't attached a desire to eat the sin that is prawn cocktail flavour to her name. You have decided to emphasise her gender and marital status.

Well her gender is obvious and doesn't need emphasising if you've followed any of the links provided so far; her marital status I'm unsure of (and uninterested in).

[Nearly Sane]

No, that's very much just you thinking so, again.

Both of which I've said.Called out? I haven't asked her out for a scrap in the car park or anything.
Your insistence that I've deployed the negative proof fallacy is deeply odd but it seems to keep you amused of a cold winter's morning.

I note the avoidance of the questkon of your irrelevantly titling Le Page as Miss. And your use of the straw in using a specific instead of general meaning of calling out. This seems to me tk be about your trying to hide tgat upu have no reason to complain abut, as you did , Le Page's willingness or not to take Anglian Water up on an offer that yoj have no reason to believe, NPF, was a double blind scientific test.

[Nearly Sane]

Well her gender is obvious and doesn't need emphasising if you've followed any of the links provided so far; her marital status I'm unsure of (and uninterested in).

so if her gender is obvious, and irrelevant,  and doesn't need emphasing, and her marital status is unknown, and irrelevant, why use a title proclaiming and emphasising them?

[Shaker]

I note the avoidance of the questkon of your irrelevantly titling Le Page as Miss. And your use of the straw in using a specific instead of general meaning of calling out. This seems to me tk be about your trying to hide tgat upu have no reason to complain abut, as you did , Le Page's willingness or not to take Anglian Water up on an offer that yoj have no reason to believe, NPF, was a double blind scientific test.

Sorry, it's a really bad line, it must be the weather.

[Nearly Sane]

Sorry, it's a really bad line, it must be the weather.

More avoidance 

[Shaker]

More avoidance

No, more witticism.

Heavy night last night, was it?

[Nearly Sane]

No, more witticism.

Heavy night last night, was it?

And more avoidance.

[Shaker]

And more avoidance.

Of my question, yes.

[Nearly Sane]

Of my question, yes.

And now misrepresentation

[Rhiannon]

Word salad posting when using a mobile isn't uncommon, I do it all the time.

[Shaker]

And now misrepresentation

Why are you referring to representation as mis?

[Nearly Sane]

Why are you referring to representation as mis?

Further avoidance.

[Udayana]

A good dowse could sort it.

[Shaker]

A good dowse could sort it.

We would need to run tests on that first 

[Harrowby Hall]

There was an item in the BBC Midlands news tonight about a major leak from a broken water main near Tewkesbury. It showed Severn-Trent using a drone to find the leak and included some of the very clear footage recorded by the thermal camera in the drone.

They must have known about our discussion.

[Owlswing]

There was an item in the BBC Midlands news tonight about a major leak from a broken water main near Tewkesbury. It showed Severn-Trent using a drone to find the leak and included some of the very clear footage recorded by the thermal camera in the drone.

They must have known about our discussion.

Honestly HH, you make it sound like the supporters of dowsing are , by supporting dowsing, trying to deny that there are modern ways of doing things - we are NOT arguing for the return to the horsedrawn plough etc!

[Harrowby Hall]

Where - in what I have written - have I referred to dowsing or the supporters of dowsing? I am reporting an item in a news broadcast which shows a water company actually seeking and finding a major leak. In other words, a demonstration of current practice. Nothing more, nothing less.

I considered that - as we have had an extensive discussion on the subject - members of this forum may find it interesting.