Only good enough to be a mistress

[Nearly Sane]

... any more than are the policies of the Church of England, presumably, though she seems to have a keen interest in them.

Well, as indicated not of interest in a bad way. Melanie McDonagh as a practising Papist will presumably be proud as punch that a papal infiltrator has seduced a scion of the heretical CoE with a view to taking rUK into a United States of Papism (USP)

[Robbie]

Blimey! I don't think Meghan is a practising Catholic & Harry isn't high up on the royal food chain. It won't be any different to, say, Prince Michael of Kent's marriage to a divorced Catholic except that Harry has a higher profile.

(I'd not heard of Melanie McDonagh before. On looking her up I found she is an unusual mixture of feminism and tradition. Her article is unpleasant though - unkind really.)

[ProfessorDavey]

Seriously? You think that simply because Markle is divorced she's unsuitable to marry a royal?

I'm struggling to see why this is an issue. There is virtually zero chance that Harry will come close to being monarch so far down the pecking order in line to the throne that he is.

But if this is an issue (I don't see how it is) then surely it is a much greater issue for Charles (1st in line to the throne) who is not only married to a divorcee, but is also divorced himself.

[Robbie]

Exactly.

Times have changed and the royals have moved with the times, I don't see Meghan Markle's nominal Catholicism or her divorce to be an issue now. 

(I believe the Queen of Spain was divorced before she married the King.)

[Gordon]

The BBC seems to think that this is the most important news story right now that we are all passionately interested and utterly delighted in the wonderful and ground-breaking news that two adults want to get married.

I'm happy for them, as I would be for any adults wishing to marry, but utterly sick that the odious institution that is the monarchy still persists to the extent that this story should be of any significant interest to the rest of us: have we run out of worryingly smoky volcanoes or incompetent politicians?

[Nearly Sane]

The older I get, the less my republicanism is related to it being an inegalitarian institution which supports a sclerotic approach to privilege (which it is) , and the more I becomes a republican because unless you are a psychopath being part of it is a cruel and unusual punishment.

[Shaker]

(I'd not heard of Melanie McDonagh before. On looking her up I found she is an unusual mixture of feminism and tradition. Her article is unpleasant though - unkind really.)

Not merely egregiously unpleasant (no great revelation to me in an organ one of whose former editors was a certain A. B. De Pfeffel Johnson) but just plain barmy. I mean, unfit to marry Prince Harry on the grounds of being divorced?

[Rhiannon]

Not merely egregiously unpleasant (no great revelation to me in an organ one of whose former editors was a certain A. B. De Pfeffel Johnson) but just plain barmy. I mean, unfit to marry Prince Harry on the grounds of being divorced?

Agreed.

[wigginhall]

Just agreeing with two Scottish friends above.   Apparently, some unemployed benefit claimant is going to be claiming housing benefit for future wife and probable sprogs.   Gosh, exciting.   Late film tonight: 'How the Romanovs came to a sticky end', starring Barbara Windsor and Bernard Bresslaw. 

[Nearly Sane]

Looks like no public holiday. Bugger! When I was self employed I would have been happy with that as not stealing but as an employee, I was hoping to get something back on my paying for the wedding.

[Anchorman]

Yes, nominally so I gather.

Harry might have to do a prince Michael of Kent thing and give up a claim to the throne, then (which wouldn't be a bad thing)
Or they could abolish the daft Act of settlement and disestablish the CofE - which would be an added bonus.

[Nearly Sane]

Harry might have to do a prince Michael of Kent thing and give up a claim to the throne, then (which wouldn't be a bad thing)
Or they could abolish the daft Act of settlement and disestablish the CofE - which would be an added bonus.

The Catholic thing in the AoS is gone.

[wigginhall]

Couldn't we have them all embalmed and put them in Mme Tussaud's?   The royalists could still go along and salivate, and it would work out a lot cheaper.   

[Anchorman]

The BBC seems to think that this is the most important news story right now that we are all passionately interested and utterly delighted in the wonderful and ground-breaking news that two adults want to get married.

I'm happy for them, as I would be for any adults wishing to marry, but utterly sick that the odious institution that is the monarchy still persists to the extent that this story should be of any significant interest to the rest of us: have we run out of worryingly smoky volcanoes or incompetent politicians?

Yep.
I'm sure those depending on food banks tonight, those freezing in their homes, those terrified of the transition to Universal credit will be rejoicing with the BBC when the BBC tells them they should be happy.
How much is this going to cost the taxpayer...maybe old Brenda can take away some of the cash she trousered into the Caiman Islands to avoid tax, to pay for it?

[Nearly Sane]

To be honest, that's sort of what I think happens already. It's a straitjacket of non thinking. And I applaud both William and Harry for at least some attempt to break out of that but they couldn't say selling arms that I might use on my army stuff is wrong. So they are so restricted as to be puppets.  And to be challenged by a Spectator controversialist who wants to support an institution that used to suppress her and her ilk.

[Anchorman]

The Catholic thing in the AoS is gone.

   



Technocally, it hasn't - 'cos the monarch has to be supreme governor of the CofE...if Harry wants to remain in direct line, he might be in a sticky position.
At the General Assembly of the CofS of two years back, at which I was a commissioner intent on five days' kip, the Kirk, in one of those brilliant milliseconds, passed a deliverece sending a 'humble petition (why 'humble') to Lizzie to abolish the Act of Settlement once and for all.
As far as I know, the auld wifie didn't respond.

[Anchorman]

Couldn't we have them all embalmed and put them in Mme Tussaud's?   The royalists could still go along and salivate, and it would work out a lot cheaper.   

 


I know a good recipe for embalming unguents.....

[Robbie]

The tabloids will be taking their attention off benefit fraudsters in the near future!  It's good news for a change, I just watched Prince Harry and Meghan's interview on Youtube and she is extremely relaxed and articulate. They seem to be a good match with their humanitarian interests, fortunate to have found eachother.

[Nearly Sane]

The tabloids will be taking their attention off benefit fraudsters in the near future!  It's good news for a change, I just watched Prince Harry and Meghan's interview on Youtube and she is extremely relaxed and articulate. They seem to be a good match with their humanitarian interests, fortunate to have found eachother.

Is it good news for those who might die because of govt policy because people go 'Aw!'?

[Gordon]

The tabloids will be taking their attention off benefit fraudsters in the near future!  It's good news for a change, I just watched Prince Harry and Meghan's interview on Youtube and she is extremely relaxed and articulate. They seem to be a good match with their humanitarian interests, fortunate to have found eachother.

No doubt though that there are many other equally happy couples whose happiness isn't thrust on others.

[Nearly Sane]

   



Technocally, it hasn't - 'cos the monarch has to be supreme governor of the CofE...if Harry wants to remain in direct line, he might be in a sticky position.
At the General Assembly of the CofS of two years back, at which I was a commissioner intent on five days' kip, the Kirk, in one of those brilliant milliseconds, passed a deliverece sending a 'humble petition (why 'humble') to Lizzie to abolish the Act of Settlement once and for all.
As far as I know, the auld wifie didn't respond.

If he were to become  left footer, ok, still an issue but being married to one is ok, now.

[Rhiannon]

Is it good news for those who might die because of govt policy because people go 'Aw!'?

I just think with all the shit in the world it’s nice to go ‘aww’ for a change. So many people aren’t happy and these two are. Pretending this isn’t happening doesn’t take the shit away.

[Nearly Sane]

I just think with all the shit in the world it’s nice to go ‘aww’ for a change. So many people aren’t happy and these two are. Pretending this isn’t happening doesn’t take the shit away.

Who said it did? But because of what it is, even if by no choice of those involved, it"s a distraction and people die because of a govt that will precisely use it as such.

[Anchorman]

lol!

http://newsthump.com/2017/11/27/royal-engagement-delights-people-who-enjoy-paying-for-weddings-theyre-not-invited-to/

[Robbie]

Absolutely Rhiannon, that's what I meant and I'm sure fellow posters knew that is what I meant. I've been a bit down of late and the news has cheered me up, doesn't mean my problems have gone away but I've had a bit of a lift today. I don't usually have a day off on Mondays and first thing this morning I was wishing I'd gone to work!

At work tomorrow I will undoubtedly be seeing some people who are having a struggle financially & in other ways but I'd bet without exception they all feel happy about Prince Harry and Meghan's engagement & don't grudge them anything. They'll have their problems, everyone does.