Only good enough to be a mistress

[Rhiannon]

The link says that MM is a Protestant, but it was claimed here yesterday that she's Catholic 

She went to a Catholic school. People made assumptions.

[Shaker]

Ohhhhhh.

[floo]

Just because people attend Catholic schools doesn't necessarily mean they are Catholic, although naturally one might make that assumption.

[ProfessorDavey]

The link says that MM is a Protestant, but it was claimed here yesterday that she's Catholic 

Bit of an odd comment in the link:

'Ms Markle, 36, a protestant, will be baptised and confirmed before the wedding ...'

Does that mean she is converting, or merely never baptised or confirmed. She went to a private Catholic Girls School in the states. That doesn't mean she was necessarily a Catholic, maybe they were happy merely to take the money. I think the school she went to doesn't restrict admission to catholics, indeed seems to be open to admissions from any background - you do have to be good enough academically and have sufficient dosh though!

[Rhiannon]

Bit of an odd comment in the link:

'Ms Markle, 36, a protestant, will be baptised and confirmed before the wedding ...'

Does that mean she is converting, or merely never baptised or confirmed. She went to a private Catholic Girls School in the states. That doesn't mean she was necessarily a Catholic, maybe they were happy merely to take the money. I think the school she went to doesn't restrict admission to catholics, indeed seems to be open to admissions from any background - you do have to be good enough academically and have sufficient dosh though!

Some individual churches require one party to be baptised, some both, before a church wedding. Tbh I'm surprised but it may be a choice on her part.

She won't have been baptised a Catholic as the Anglican church recognises Catholic baptism. It means she hasn't been baptised before.

[ProfessorDavey]

Bit of an odd comment in the link:

'Ms Markle, 36, a protestant, will be baptised and confirmed before the wedding ...'

Does that mean she is converting, or merely never baptised or confirmed. She went to a private Catholic Girls School in the states. That doesn't mean she was necessarily a Catholic, maybe they were happy merely to take the money. I think the school she went to doesn't restrict admission to catholics, indeed seems to be open to admissions from any background - you do have to be good enough academically and have sufficient dosh though!

Looking into this a bit further the school she attended seems to 'major' in getting their ex-pupils into acting positions - virtually all their famous alumni are actors. Given that she came from a theatre/film (her father is an Emmy winning lighting director) then this school was probably a good fit regardless of the religion of the family (if they had one at all).

[ProfessorDavey]

Some individual churches require one party to be baptised, some both, before a church wedding. Tbh I'm surprised but it may be a choice on her part.

She won't have been baptised a Catholic as the Anglican church recognises Catholic baptism. It means she hasn't been baptised before.

Apparently she's Jewish!

https://www.jta.org/2017/05/24/life-religion/is-meghan-markle-jewish-the-internet-is-confused

Or maybe not - I suspect she has no meaningful religious involvement ... which makes her ideal as a Brit.

[Shaker]

Apparently she's Jewish!

Any more offers?

[ProfessorDavey]

Any more offers?

Oh there'll be plenty.

[Robbie]

What does it matter what religion she is if any? It appears she has never been a Catholic and it's quite true that lots of Catholic schools, especially private ones, take non-Catholics. It's the same here, parents choose a school for its academic reputation, religion is secondary to that.

IMHO Prince Harry is a likable dope who was put into the army to give him a job because he was not particularly good at anything, and being photographed at a fancy dress party wearing a mock nazi uniform was not a good idea. I do remember the concert for Princess Diana in 2007, the announcer asked for a round of applause for Princes William & Harry for agreeing to the concert going ahead. Harry, in a bored daze & not taking much notice of what was going on, was seen casually clapping along with everybody else until his brother told him that it is not etiquette to applaud oneself.

Rather scathing and dismissive of someone who has grown up considerably since those times.  Has absolutely nothing to do with his and Meghan's engagement.

Prof Davey: It wouldn't surprise me if Harry and Meghan eventually relocate to the USA, allowing them to live a rather more normal life outside of the public glare, and potentially allowing her to resume her career. If that happened I don't think it would be a bad thing at all.
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Who knows what will happen in the future but I think both of them have a lot of substance which is shown in their passionate commitment to particular causes and charities. They could be good representatives for both UK and USA.

I'm no great fan of the armed forces but it certainly was right for Harry and he proved himself there.  He has matured into a fine man.

From the interview they gave from their home, they seem ideally suited.

Glad to hear they will be marrying at Windsor, less pomp.

I deliberately asked people who came to see me at work today what they thought about the engagement - I threw it in casually along with offering coffee.  They were all delighted & showed no resentment whatsoever despite their own difficult circumstances.

(Not seen the latest so will now peruse the news.
Later: done!  Nothing I haven't learned here, ie Meghan's family is not Catholic (father is Episcopalian), they're getting married at St George's, Windsor.)

[Owlswing]

Just because people attend Catholic schools doesn't necessarily mean they are Catholic, although naturally one might make that assumption.

A friend of mine - a Pagan - sent both of her daughters to Catholic School - she reckoned that there was no better place for them to go to learn how to do a ritual properly.

[Shaker]

What does it matter what religion she is if any?

To the overwhelming majority of people, absolutely not a jot.

To the author of the article in the OP, apparently quite a bit.

[Robbie]

She seems to be stuck in a time warp.

[Harrowby Hall]

Err - explain please

As has been suggested, it was a clumsy attempt at identifying Catherine's parents as commoners - they had both been cabin crew before becoming flight dispatchers.

I did break my own iron rule and watched the tv interview last night.  I found Meghan Merkle to be a pleasant, interesting, articulate young woman who I would be pleased to accept into my own family. I am not a monarchist, but I do wish the couple well. It is easy to be sanctimonious and use the circumstances of Harry's birth to deny him his humanity.

Meghan attended an all-girls private Roman Catholic school. I suspect (looking for confirmation or denial) that one of her parents was RC and the other not.

[Nearly Sane]

One can only say NFN



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-42144611

[Robbie]

Very original!

The engagement did not take precedence over other news tonight; I'm glad to say the diphtheria outbreak in Yemen was bigger news. It's heartbreaking - for another thread though.

[Harrowby Hall]

News about this event which has disappointed/angered me: 

Apparently, Miss Merkle will be baptised into the CofE and then confirmed in a private ceremony before the wedding. 

She will also be naturalised as a British citizen.

It must be like being abducted by aliens.

[Aruntraveller]

In other news the German population is confused and shocked at the news that Prince Harry is to marry Mrs Merkel.

(not mine - but it made me giggle)

[Robbie]

News about this event which has disappointed/angered me: 

Apparently, Miss Merkle will be baptised into the CofE and then confirmed in a private ceremony before the wedding. 

She will also be naturalised as a British citizen.

It must be like being abducted by aliens.

It's her choice.  She'll presumably have dual citizenship.  As for the baptism and confirmation, we'd already found out she wasn't a Catholic (and we'd have heard if she was Orthodox), she and Harry have chosen to marry in an Anglican church which is not in the parish where they live, so it follows she'll be required to go through some formalities.  Nothing to be upset about, there's no force involved.

Meghan may well like all the quaint little English customs  . In any case it will be a private ceremony, and a quick one, a pity there is any publicity about it.  It is her business after all.

In other news the German population is confused and shocked at the news that Prince Harry is to marry Mrs Merkel.

(not mine - but it made me giggle)

Very good.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Apparently she's Jewish!

https://www.jta.org/2017/05/24/life-religion/is-meghan-markle-jewish-the-internet-is-confused

Or maybe not - I suspect she has no meaningful religious involvement ... which makes her ideal as a Brit.

That was my understanding too. Perhaps she sees it as nothing more than changing teams? As an aside, can one "De-Jew"? I understand that the rabbinate consider anybody born Jewish to always be Jewish (much to the chagrin of some, a good example being former Variety editor Peter Bart), but I am not sure of the position regarding converts.

[Robbie]

I've just been reading about the 'reasons' and it seems Meghan Markle is being baptised and confirmed because the Queen is head of the Anglican Church and she's marrying into the royals.

Her previous marriage was to a Jewish person and they had a Jewish wedding but she didn't convert to Judaism.

I understand why some may have misgivings, my own view is that there is little point making a commitment to a religion unless you are a believer but to them it is probably a small formality.  Let's face it, people have been marrying in church without having any commitment for centuries!  She may well have some Christian faith, we don't know, the important thing is that the two of them want to be married, it's not anyone else's business how they do it.

[Owlswing]

Quite honestly I am amazed at the whole furore.

William and Harry are so far from having even a remote chance of getting thier arses on the throne that the whole thing is a nonsense.

The two boys have already made it clear that as HM the Q and Nick the Greek power down they are going to be taking a far greateer active part in promoting those things, like the Invicta (?sic) games, that they are interested in.

The have also made it clear that they do not intend to sit back and get paid for doing diddley-squat.

They, if no-one else among the Royals, seem to realise that they live in the 21st century and the 'times they are a'changing'.

[Robbie]

Furore has died down for a while.

[ProfessorDavey]

William and Harry are so far from having even a remote chance of getting thier arses on the throne that the whole thing is a nonsense.

On Harry - I agree with you. He is, in effect, currently 6th in line (albeit 5th is still a foetus) so has pretty well zero chance of becoming monarch.

William - that's a different matter - he will almost certainly become monarch in due course. But if his father lives to the same age as his father's father, then he will be kicking his heels for another 27 years at the least.

[Robbie]

Jolly glad I think they will be too, they have freedom to be involved in so many things.