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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #75 on: December 01, 2017, 11:42:00 AM »
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But relentless negativity is incredibly wearing after the first five minutes or so - see any Remain voter for details.

not wishing to derail but relentless negativity worked for Farage didn't it?
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2017, 11:42:21 AM »
Problem is that the 'true meaning of Christmas' is different for each of us.
Got it in one. And thank goodness for it.
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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2017, 11:44:10 AM »
My husband had his devastating brain haemorrhage on December 28th 2006, it has rather spoilt the season for me.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2017, 11:44:40 AM »
Sure, if that's your bag. But relentless negativity is incredibly wearing after the first five minutes or so - see any Remain voter for details. (Political material always an option, kids).

If we had a national show of hands of who associates Christmas with something traumatic there would be a great many hands in the air. I mean millions - in the tens of millions, probably. It's not unusual. It's not special. I could tie trauma to Christmas if I chose to. Not just one but a series of them, a run of them in the 1990s so horrific that, careful writer that I try to be, I don't even possess the vocabulary to describe their wretchedness even if I wanted to, which I wouldn't. A quarter of a century on and with a beard increasingly more white than brown I can still be a prisoner of that or I can make Christmas my own. I chose the latter. I'm decidedly in the Julian Barbour camp: I don't think time exists in any objective sense and as commonly thought of is an illusion. But subjectively we find it easier to manage linear time - past-present-future. The downside is that you can't do anything about bad memories - they're stashed away in the past and all you can do with them is keep the lights off and the door shut. The good news is that if memories of the past are shit, make some new ones. In fact make more of them than the old ones. I did.

I'm sorry that my negativity wears you so much. I'm so boring. Forgive me.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2017, 11:45:07 AM »
My husband had his devastating brain haemorrhage on December 28th 2006, it has rather spoilt the season for me.

I'm sorry, Floo.  :(

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2017, 11:45:45 AM »
not wishing to derail but relentless negativity worked for Farage didn't it?

And yet not for Remain and Project Fear.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2017, 11:50:47 AM »
And yet not for Remain and Project Fear.

I was rather thinking of the 20-30 year run up to it that Farage enjoyed - rather than the campaign itself. A long sustained whine that proved effective. No never underestimate the power of 'relentless negativity'. I am in fact employing it at work rather successfully - but that along with Brexit is perhaps best saved for another thread.

Enjoy the season as best you can, Rhi. On a clear night look at the stars and they put all those false twinkling ones at this time of year into perspective.
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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2017, 11:51:40 AM »
And yet not for Remain and Project Fear.
But the predictions of 'Project Fear' and coming true one by one - Project Reality more like.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2017, 11:53:39 AM »
I'm sorry that my negativity wears you so much. I'm so boring. Forgive me.
I am missing your relentless negativity here. We're back at the whole if you don't join in you are to be attacked. It's all a bit Invasion of the Body Snatchers (which i associate with Christmas because that's when I first saw it)

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2017, 11:59:19 AM »
This Brexit thing, it's like sand or knotweed.  If we actually ever do Brexit, on the day that marks it if anyone wishes Merry Brexit or Happy Independence Day, they will be visiting the ghost of Brexit past

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2017, 12:17:06 PM »
I don't believe for one minute Rhiannon is a scrooge. What you (Rhi) said about having a fire pit on Christmas Eve is a beautiful idea as is being considerate to people all year round, not just at Christmas. So much pressure is put on folks at this time of year; Christmas is difficult for some and relentless cheer can be very wearing.

(Another thing is summer holidays. I never ask anyone if they've booked anything because I've known people who cannot afford a holiday and it's embarrassing for them to be put on the spot.)

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2017, 12:24:43 PM »
I am missing your relentless negativity here. We're back at the whole if you don't join in you are to be attacked. It's all a bit Invasion of the Body Snatchers (which i associate with Christmas because that's when I first saw it)

I associate it with the Poseidon Adventure.


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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2017, 12:30:03 PM »
I don't believe for one minute Rhiannon is a scrooge. What you (Rhi) said about having a fire pit on Christmas Eve is a beautiful idea as is being considerate to people all year round, not just at Christmas. So much pressure is put on folks at this time of year; Christmas is difficult for some and relentless cheer can be very wearing.

(Another thing is summer holidays. I never ask anyone if they've booked anything because I've known people who cannot afford a holiday and it's embarrassing for them to be put on the spot.)

I had the holiday thing happen to me this year - or rather my son did.

I'm going out for dinner and then late night shopping today with my girls - sadly no mulled wine as I'm driving - and it will be a good time for us to be together and enjoy our pretty town in winter. We have some stuff planned for the weekend too - making ice candle holders and also ones from tin cans, chalk paint and ageing wax. The latter will still be usable in January and beyond.

And I have a date on Sunday. Screw Xmas, its the cuffing season.  ;)

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #88 on: December 01, 2017, 12:32:24 PM »
I associate it with the Poseidon Adventure.
So many films are associated with Christmas because that used to be when they would be shown for the first and the nth time. High Society and Cabaret are more Hogmanay for me.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2017, 12:33:49 PM »
So many films are associated with Christmas because that used to be when they would be shown for the first and the nth time. High Society and Cabaret are more Hogmanay for me.

There was Death on the Nile too, the really hammy one with Bette Davis and Peter Ustinov, and Mia Farrow having a blast.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #90 on: December 01, 2017, 12:35:40 PM »
There was Death on the Nile too, the really hammy one with Bette Davis and Peter Ustinov, and Mia Farrow having a blast.
Where Eagles Dare - its got snow and everything ;)

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #91 on: December 01, 2017, 12:37:26 PM »
Rhiannon:-  And I have a date on Sunday. Screw Xmas, its the cuffing season.  ;)

Quite right too!
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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #92 on: December 01, 2017, 12:38:37 PM »
Where Eagles Dare - its got snow and everything ;)

Oooh, cracking film.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #93 on: December 01, 2017, 12:38:49 PM »
There was Death on the Nile too, the really hammy one with Bette Davis and Peter Ustinov, and Mia Farrow having a blast.
Bridge on the River Kwai, The Magnificent Seven and The Sound of Music as well. And you are right about Death on the Nile which is glorious. We will, of couraey, this year not get the Christie adaptation the BBC has been trying to turn into a new tradition because of the while Sexual behavior of the Acting industry thing.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #94 on: December 01, 2017, 12:39:06 PM »
Rhiannon:-  And I have a date on Sunday. Screw Xmas, its the cuffing season.  ;)

Quite right too!

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #95 on: December 01, 2017, 12:42:15 PM »
Bridge on the River Kwai, The Magnificent Seven and The Sound of Music as well. And you are right about Death on the Nile which is glorious. We will, of couraey, this year not get the Christie adaptation the BBC has been trying to turn into a new tradition because of the while Sexual behavior of the Acting industry thing.

They'd done Ordeal by Innocence hadn't they? There's a version of that I've only ever seen once with the rather lovely Donald Sutherland in the lead. Bleak as bleak but it is one of her darker stories.

For some reason I associate the Sound of Music with Easter. Maybe it's because of Edelweiss.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #96 on: December 01, 2017, 12:48:12 PM »
They'd done Ordeal by Innocence hadn't they? There's a version of that I've only ever seen once with the rather lovely Donald Sutherland in the lead. Bleak as bleak but it is one of her darker stories.

For some reason I associate the Sound of Music with Easter. Maybe it's because of Edelweiss.


Yes, the Sutherland one has a fabulous cast, though the BBC one looked like not being too shabby - anything with Bill Nighy and Anna Chancellor is fine with me.



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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #97 on: December 01, 2017, 01:29:00 PM »
In my head I should be played by Helena Bonham Carter. In reality I’m probably more Queenie from Blackadder.

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #98 on: December 01, 2017, 01:38:31 PM »
The only films I have ever enjoyed are the Harry Potter ones. I would no doubt fit in well as a character at the famous Hogwarts, which is reminiscent of the Ladies college I attended in my youth. ;D

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Re: The Christmas 2017 thread
« Reply #99 on: December 01, 2017, 01:57:00 PM »
In my head I should be played by Helena Bonham Carter. In reality I’m probably more Queenie from Blackadder.
It's the mix between M*A*S*H, Klute,  and Kelly's Heroes that I see Donald playing.