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Humph Warden Bennett

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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2017, 09:39:22 AM »
Off the top of my head:

Probably most porn is US-based, so a de facto though not de jure Christian climate, and in any case crosses are widely seen by many as another item of jewellery - a fashion accessory in some cases - with no religious component.

A cross yes, in my experience those who wear a crucifix actually mean it. That is why I find it interesting that the OP refers to the latter rather than the former.

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« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2017, 09:39:53 AM »
Russian Orthodox crucifixes are quite different from RC, or Anglican Crucifixes.

FTR I do recall seeing a porn video in which one of the actresses wore a Star of David.

For research purposes, I presume  :o 

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« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2017, 09:44:00 AM »
For research purposes, I presume  :o

Yes the segment was entitled "Marilyn from Canterbury" & I wanted to check if it really was filmed in Canterbury.......

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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2017, 09:58:19 AM »
Yes the segment was entitled "Marilyn from Canterbury"
It wasn't Canterbury  :o
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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2017, 10:04:09 AM »
This is what I think too. Catholics who also happen to make porn.
They're rubbish. Ten minutes of hard-core sex, four and a half hours of guilt.
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« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2017, 11:17:12 AM »
I heard a programme on radio 4 which covered some of this . It has become popular as a very lucrative income stream for normally low paid or unemployed people out in the sticks with a laptop and a video camera .
To be honest it looks far more genuine and real than the stuff 'coming' out of USA and therefore much more appealing , so I'm told  ;)

In a lot of places Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity is cultural as much as religious. I doubt many taking part even think about the fact they are wearing crucifixes/crosses.

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« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2017, 12:12:42 PM »
I thought that too. Crosses of all types are worn by lots of people - and can look quite dramatic - but  rarely is a crucifix seen. We could be wrong about this issue though, it might be the exception.
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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2017, 02:00:59 PM »
In a lot of places Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity is cultural as much as religious. I doubt many taking part even think about the fact they are wearing crucifixes/crosses.

As above, in my experience that is not the case. In the USA crosses are commonplace, but few wear a crucifix just as a piece of jewellery, since the same is usually considered by non practitioners to be an ugly image.

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« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2017, 02:04:54 PM »
Is Sir Owl's friend accurate when she refers to crucifixes and not crosses?

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« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2017, 02:19:34 PM »
That's what I wondered.

I also thought that a porn actor, wearing either cross or crucifix, would appear to be sacreligious and therefore more daring - doubt the actors think about it one way or the other but we'd have to ask them to be sure.

PS:  Googled "Why do porn actors wear crosses and crucifixes" and, blimey, loads of stuff came up with a variety of reasons so it must be quite common! Also mentioned gangsta rappers and other people.

(I do find myself looking up some bizarre things these days! I'm in bed, not being idle but came home after being very sick earlier. Feeling less nauseous now thank goodness, all this is taking my mind off it!)
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« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2017, 02:56:28 PM »

Is Sir Owl's friend accurate when she refers to crucifixes and not crosses?


A quick 'phone call to the lady in question and she said that she mentioned both, but did state that the crucifix was the rarer of the two.
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« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2017, 02:58:31 PM »

(I do find myself looking up some bizarre things these days! I'm in bed, not being idle but came home after being very sick earlier. Feeling less nauseous now thank goodness, all this is taking my mind off it!)


Whereas a dyed in the wool Christian's nausea would get progressively worse . . . .
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« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2017, 03:05:32 PM »
It's not that I like it Owlswing but cannot and will not judge someone who does not share my faith. I doubt that a cross or crucifix has any meaning to the actors.
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« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2017, 03:18:49 PM »

It's not that I like it Owlswing but cannot and will not judge someone who does not share my faith. I doubt that a cross or crucifix has any meaning to the actors.


A light edit . . .

"I doubt that a cross or crucifix has any meaning to the actors"

to read

"I doubt that a cross or crucifix has any meaning to many of the actors"

and I would probably agree with you.
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« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2017, 03:26:01 PM »
True.
(When I said I can't and won't judge I am speaking about things like this, concerning consenting adults. I've no idea what makes people to do such things for a living but they are human beings like me.
I'd certainly judge anyone who committed acts of violence, armed robbery or the like.)

Anyway have you looked up why crosses are worn by porn actors? There's plenty of information about it on the internet.
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« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2017, 03:55:51 PM »
True.
(When I said I can't and won't judge I am speaking about things like this, concerning consenting adults. I've no idea what makes people to do such things for a living but they are human beings like me.
I'd certainly judge anyone who committed acts of violence, armed robbery or the like.)

Anyway have you looked up why crosses are worn by porn actors? There's plenty of information about it on the internet.
quite a lot of is not acting as such , they are performers , thousands of them are amateurs and they appear to enjoy it

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« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2017, 04:09:41 PM »
Actors appear to enjoy all sorts of things, that's what acting is about. Actors are performers.

I dunno much about porn, my sister and I watched 'Fifty Shades', on Netflix a while back as we'd heard a bit about the book ("Mommy" porn apparently), and wondered what the fuss was all about. That wasn't real nor was the story realistic imo - but it was very scarey. 

(The actors didn't wear crosses or crucifixes - some of the time they wore a lot less than that.)
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« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2017, 04:23:02 PM »
Actors appear to enjoy all sorts of things, that's what acting is about. Actors are performers.

I dunno much about porn, my sister and I watched 'Fifty Shades', on Netflix a while back as we'd heard a bit about the book ("Mommy" porn apparently), and wondered what the fuss was all about. That wasn't real nor was the story realistic imo - but it was very scarey. 

(The actors didn't wear crosses or crucifixes - some of the time they wore a lot less than that.)

"Fifty Shades" has about as much to do with the "real" world of Dom/Sub BDSM as "Harry Potter" has to do with witches (there are no wizards) in the real world.

For the uninitiated, in a true Dom/Sub relationship it is the Sub who controls what goes on, what happens and, far more importantly, what does NOT happen.

The Dom and the Sub will agree beforehand on what is called the "Safe" word - a word that would never be used in the normal course of anything that might happen during a BDSM session and, once said by the Sub, all, ALL activity stops, no ifs, buts or maybes, it stops.

Mr Grey is not a BDSM Dom, he is a sadistic controlling bully and rapist and the writer has no idea, and has admiited so, of what actually happens in a real BDSM relationship but this did not stop her writing two sequals that were equally ill-informed.

Most of what "the fuss was all about" was from BDSM afficianados bitching at the misrepresentation of their particular kink!
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« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2017, 04:29:29 PM »
Actors appear to enjoy all sorts of things, that's what acting is about. Actors are performers.

I dunno much about porn, my sister and I watched 'Fifty Shades', on Netflix a while back as we'd heard a bit about the book ("Mommy" porn apparently), and wondered what the fuss was all about. That wasn't real nor was the story realistic imo - but it was very scarey. 

(The actors didn't wear crosses or crucifixes - some of the time they wore a lot less than that.)
maybe you should spend an hour whilst you are 'not feeling well 'and have a look at what I mean , then I won't need to explain it 

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« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2017, 04:36:52 PM »
No, I like romantic fiction, Walter. However I'm quite interested in this thread. Oy, don't put my 'not feeling well' in quotation marks! I'm no faker, you cheeky thing!)

Owl, thanks for the information, I hadn't read any of that. Agree the male lead was a sadistic bully, that was frightening.
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« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2017, 04:40:43 PM »
Apparently 50 Shades started off as Twilight fan fic. Figures.

In our village library (aka the old telephone box) you can always find several copies.

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« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2017, 04:50:15 PM »
Apparently 50 Shades started off as Twilight fan fic. Figures.

In our village library (aka the old telephone box) you can always find several copies.

Much thumbed and dog-eared I have no doubt!
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« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2017, 04:52:23 PM »

Oy, don't put my 'not feeling well' in quotation marks! I'm no faker, you cheeky thing!


Come on, Robbie, you know that you can always rely on Walter for the cheap shot!
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« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2017, 06:58:21 PM »
Come on, Robbie, you know that you can always rely on Walter for the cheap shot!

..........and, there it is  ::)

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« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2017, 07:28:13 PM »

..........and, there it is  ::)


Since when was my name Walter!

But, then again, I have come to expect nothing else from you.

Like I said - you are gutless - you can dish it out but you can't take it!
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