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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 03:07:05 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/dec/05/facebook-bans-women-posting-men-are-scum-harassment-scandals-comedian-marcia-belsky-abuse

Good.

Facebook should also ban posts, which treat women as subservient to the male of the species, or those who make unpleasant comments about homosexuality.

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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 03:09:44 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/dec/05/facebook-bans-women-posting-men-are-scum-harassment-scandals-comedian-marcia-belsky-abuse

Good.

Good that it makes men look like special snowflakes while allowing rape threats and the n word to stand? Well, if you say so, but it doesn’t float my boat.

By the way you’ve made a spelling mistake in your thread title.

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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 03:25:24 PM »

By the way you’ve made a spelling mistake in your thread title.

I used the feminine version  :)

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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2017, 03:29:59 PM »
I used the feminine version  :)

Why? It’s a word that’s no longer in use.

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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 03:32:04 PM »
Apparently a feminist comedienne was about to appear on stage but couldn't because she 'felt a little funny'. Her manager told her to get on before it wore off.

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 03:34:10 PM »
Apparently a feminist comedienne was about to appear on stage but couldn't because she 'felt a little funny'. Her manager told her to get on before it wore off.

I didn’t realise you were a misogynist on top of everything else, Vlad.

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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 03:44:55 PM »
Why? It’s a word that’s no longer in use.

It's still in the OED, even if it's not used at Friday Night Womens Action Group meetings.

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 03:46:08 PM »
I didn’t realise you were a misogynist on top of everything else, Vlad.
Why, I have used the same joke against several male comediennes. Are you saying that comedians should not have jokes made at their expense?

Can you therefore retract your accusation of misogyny, please?

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 03:56:57 PM »
It's still in the OED, even if it's not used at Friday Night Womens Action Group meetings.

It’s also not used by anyone other than those who wish to belittle these days. Plenty of archaic words still appear in dictionaries. Your point?

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 03:58:55 PM »
Why, I have used the same joke against several male comediennes. Are you saying that comedians should not have jokes made at their expense?

Can you therefore retract your accusation of misogyny, please?

Male comediennes?

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2017, 04:02:50 PM »
It’s also not used by anyone other than those who wish to belittle these days. Plenty of archaic words still appear in dictionaries. Your point?

What started as a tweet from comedienne Emma Knyckare quickly gained traction, culminating in a Kickstarter to raise funds for a female-only festival.

Kat Bein, Billboard, "Sweden to Host World's Largest Women-Only Music Festival in 2018," 10 Oct. 2017


 :D

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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2017, 04:08:20 PM »
What started as a tweet from comedienne Emma Knyckare quickly gained traction, culminating in a Kickstarter to raise funds for a female-only festival.

Kat Bein, Billboard, "Sweden to Host World's Largest Women-Only Music Festival in 2018," 10 Oct. 2017


 :D

I’m still not getting your point. Someone misusing the term justifies you doing so? The article that you link to uses the term ‘comedian’. Why did you change it?

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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2017, 04:11:12 PM »
Male comediennes?
Will you please remove your accusation of misogyny.

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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2017, 04:15:52 PM »
Will you please remove your accusation of misogyny.

Will you please explain what a male commedienne is?

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2017, 05:05:02 PM »
Will you please explain what a male commedienne is?
Are you going to remove your accusation of Misogyny?

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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2017, 05:13:56 PM »
It's still in the OED, even if it's not used at Friday Night Womens Action Group meetings.

You come over as a sexist and homophobic Moderator: content removed ! >:(
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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2017, 05:14:32 PM »
Are you going to remove your accusation of Misogyny?

Your comment about ‘male comediennes’ does throw up a different possibility around your post and suggests that you don’t know the difference between the words ‘comedienne’ and ‘comedian’. But seeing as you won’t clarify which I don’t really have any option other than to stick with my original view.

If you want me to change it you have to actually explain what you mean.

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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2017, 05:59:29 PM »
You come over as a sexist and homophobic Moderator: quoted content removed >:(

Where did you get that from?
A comedienne is a female person who tells jokes and is funny in front of an audience.
A comedian is a male.......    "        "      "      "      "    "     "     "    "    "    "       "
'Comic' is the gender neutral term.
Then there are 'comedones'...teenage comics.
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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2017, 06:39:07 PM »
I’m still not getting your point. Someone misusing the term justifies you doing so?
It seems to be in more common usage than you might think.
I have seen it used by BBC, Sky, ITV, The Independent, the Guardian and others.


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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2017, 06:48:16 PM »
Why? It’s a word that’s no longer in use.
Yes it is (still in use that is).
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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2017, 06:49:09 PM »
I didn’t realise you were a misogynist on top of everything else, Vlad.
He says that joke about everybody.
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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2017, 06:56:40 PM »
Where did you get that from?
A comedienne is a female person who tells jokes and is funny in front of an audience.
A comedian is a male.......    "        "      "      "      "    "     "     "    "    "    "       "
'Comic' is the gender neutral term.
Then there are 'comedones'...teenage comics.

"Comedian" is now frequently used to refer to either male or female comics. It's the same as the distinction between "actor" and "actress".  People generally don't talk about actresses anymore, even though it is much less of a mouthful than "female actor".



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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2017, 06:59:35 PM »
I'm aware of that but still hear the words, "Comedienne", and, "Actress" used. I didn't realise there was such controversy about it & don't understand why.
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Re: Feminist comediennes banned from facebook
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2017, 07:07:51 PM »
I'm aware of that but still hear the words, "Comedienne", and, "Actress" used. I didn't realise there was such controversy about it & don't understand why.

The only reason ‘actress’ still exists as a term is because of industry awards - the Oscars for example. Maybe it’s because I avoid the right wing press that I haven’t heard the term ‘comedienne’ since Jenny Eclair started out.

But let’s look at this in context. First, feminist comedians aren’t going to use the term. Humph did. Secondly, the Graun used the term ‘comedian’. Humph changed it. We know Humph doesn’t like feminism, he’s made that clear in numerous posts. Therefore I think it is reasonable to take the view that he used the word calculatedly to demean.

What I am really pissed with myself about is in that pointing it out the fact that Humph thinks it’s a good thing that women trying to stand up to rape threats get banned on FB when others doing far worse don’t has got lost. Until there’s a level playing field this isn’t right. It’s not a good thing.
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